Can Creationists Show Evolution Never Happened?

Creationist agree that adaptation occurs. Adaptation is evidence of a "good design."Mutations do not proove evolution. Mutations are never "good" or helpful to an organism. The plant or animal that is mutated is always worse off than he was before.Besides, even when mutations do occur, they only scramble the genetic information that is already there. Mutations do not and can not add informationI believe that the true reason why creationist can not prove creation is because athiest reject the holy spirit.

The process of natural selection states that as the environment changes the animals either die or change with the environment.The animals we have today appear to be adaquatly adapt in their environment, or at least enough to survive.I believe evolutionist see it backwards. The animals appear adaquatly adapted because they are designed to work with the environment.

[b] [QUOTE] What is the mechanism of this "adaption"
[/b][/QUOTE]I suppose it would be the ability to handle changes in the enviroment without becoming extinct. However, these traits are already present in the animal before the enviromental condition which causes them to appear occurs. There also reaches a point where no further change can occur. I believe this is apparent because the enviroment changes very dramatically sometimes, yet animals die out, and we witness no new species. [b]

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Mutations do not proove evolution. Mutations are never "good" or helpful to an organism. The plant or animal that is mutated is always worse off than he was before. [QUOTE] How do you know this? A mutation that improved the oxygen affinity of haemaglobin would be positive, a few codons reversed/removed/added could do this, its only a molecule. There is no reason a given mutation can't be positive.
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Do you know of an example of an animal with a good mutation? [b] [QUOTE] Mutations do effectively scramble existing genetic information. But this IS new information. It is interpreted into different proteins that may have NEVER existed before, just by switching a few codons around.
[/b][/QUOTE]The animal looses the same amount of information that it gains. And like I said, the gains are never good.

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Originally posted by minnemooseus:
It seems time to once again bring up the two aspects of organic evolution:

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1) The fact of evolution - The worldly evidence that, down through time, there has been a change in the life forms populating the earth. This is true, regardless of whether it be from the mechanisms of the theory of evolution, or from a progression of God's creations.

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2) The theory of evolution - Mutations, natural selection, etc.

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I ask Redstang - Do you accept #1, the fact of evolution?

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Moose

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What you consider evidence of evolution, I consider misinterpritations and in some cases even frauds.