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Author Topic:   Oh my God, I'm an Atheist !!
nator
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Message 55 of 183 (410037)
07-12-2007 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by riVeRraT
07-12-2007 9:04 AM


So tell me, riverrat, are you an agnostic when it comes to the immaterial pink unicorn? How about the invisible green goblin? How about the tooth fairy?
quote:
There are OBJECTIVE explanations for all of those.
Such as?

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nator
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Message 86 of 183 (410242)
07-13-2007 10:03 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by crashfrog
07-13-2007 12:53 PM


Re: Taking a look at Faith and Belief
quote:
Sidelined ponders the meaning of the doctrine of the Trinity (not, I presume, onion, celery, and bell pepper.)
LOL!

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nator
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Message 160 of 183 (410774)
07-17-2007 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by riVeRraT
07-16-2007 11:30 AM


Re: Some Observations
I think it is interesting that you continue to cling to this double standard, rat.
First, you make the following arrogant presumption about athiests and agnostics whom you don't even know:
quote:
No, I believe atheists, and agnostics know God in their hearts, but can be deceived by the world into thinking He doesn't exist.
In the next breath, you object to the very same treatment when you perceive Percy to be doing it:
quote:
Oh, I do accept your answer, what I don't accept is your misconceptions and accusations of who and what I am. What am I really up to?

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nator
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Message 161 of 183 (410775)
07-17-2007 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 139 by Hyroglyphx
07-16-2007 1:47 PM


Re: Some Observations
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I don't think atheists know in their mind that God exists, but are troubled by what they know in their heart, so that there is this constant tension.
There isn't any "constant tension" with me.
Tell me, Juggs, were you this presumptuous and arrogant before your conversion to Fundyism, or did you always figure that you knew everyone else's "true beliefs", even if it contradicts what they actually tell you?
Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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nator
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Message 163 of 183 (410778)
07-17-2007 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 149 by riVeRraT
07-17-2007 12:16 AM


Re: Created with Fear
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It's about doing the "right thing." A coin phrase said by manyh people here. Just where does this "right thing" come from?
Society.
As in, we are social animals, and thus have developed rules for behavior in order to create a more cohesive group.

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nator
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Message 165 of 183 (410781)
07-17-2007 9:32 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by riVeRraT
07-17-2007 6:03 AM


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That's the problem, too many people think that just because they accept gays, and hate christians, that they are beyond prejudice, and their own form of bigotry.
I don't hate anyone.
I do strongly reject bigotry and those who are bigotted, however.
Not all Christians are bigots, but most of the ones who post here have certainly displayed bigotry, including you.
And I fully realize that everyone is prone to bigotry. Xenophobia and fear of difference is part of the human condition. It is something that I monitor and try to counter in myself all the time.
The difference between me and a religious bigot is that I have no notion of a God that commands me to be a bigot.

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