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Author Topic:   How did animal get to isolated places after the flood?
Quetzal
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Message 90 of 194 (385339)
02-15-2007 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 82 by SR71
02-14-2007 8:01 PM


Re: answer is easy.
How could there have possibly been __years worth of food on the ark for thousands and thousands of animals?
That's easy. There weren't "thousands and thousands of animals" on the ark. There were only a few representative "kinds". You know, like "chordate kind", etc. The ark only had to be the size of a houseboat - and since it was substantially larger, there was plenty of food. Of course, explaining the hypermacroevolution over the few intervening centuries is a bit problematic. I once calculated that, based on Morris' ~8000 kinds, that we're looking at something over 1300 speciation events per year since the Flud to reach the minimum biodiversity we see today. 8000 may even be a bit high, but that just means hypermacroevolution took place more rapidly. And the YECs claim evilutionists don't have enough time for their theory...

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Quetzal
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Message 113 of 194 (385566)
02-16-2007 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by jar
02-15-2007 10:56 AM


Re: Gopherwood Forests
But the food was hyper-macro dehydrated. A whole barn full of hay bales was reduced to the size of a sugar cube.
Wasn't this one of Morris' ideas about how to get around the food problem? Or was that former member JohnPaul's extrapolation? I can't remember.

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Quetzal
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Message 128 of 194 (386086)
02-19-2007 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by johnfolton
02-16-2007 10:36 AM


Grain Storage
The bible said to pitch inside and out, no reason why the grain bins would not of been sealed inside and out, thus they would of been preserved from the humidity. Grains energy value compared to huge volumes of hay reduced the size needed for energy storage (condensed energy) add water an serve.
Besides the fact that you responded to the wrong post - mine was simply a question as to which YEC author came up with the idea of pelletized, dehydrated grain (I'm pretty sure now that I think about it that it was Woodmorappe) - your "response" yields a whole raft of new questions.
Are you aware of the humidity problem on all ships, let alone wooden ones? It has nothing to do with calking/pitch - which has to be renewed periodically regardless of how well applied. The very air is saturated. Modern ships have substantial mechanical dehydrators to insure their cargo holds are relatively humidity-free. No matter how well "pitched" the Ark was, there was no possible way to reduce the moisture content of the air itself. Now, picture a bunch of pitch-coated bins filled with highly absorbant grain on a wooden ship in the midst of the mother-of-all-storms. What do you figure the saturated air will do? Can you say "mold heaven"? Ergot is just one of the problems...
Another issue is simply one of volume: do you have any conception of the amount of grain (and not all herbivores can digest grain very well - few of the browsers, for instance, have the appropriate gut fermentation capability) required for even a very small number of large herbivores? For a year (or more, if all those forests, savannahs, etc, had to be replanted by hand)?
Finally, as nator mentioned, horses and others have a really hard time surviving for more than a few days on grain alone. Ever heard of "bloat"?

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