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Author Topic:   How did animal get to isolated places after the flood?
SR71
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Message 79 of 194 (385137)
02-14-2007 10:54 AM


Well I am mainly an EVC lurker, but I thought of something while reading this thread. Certainly I'm not the first to think about this, but 40 days of rain that covered the top of the highest mountains would be sufficient to kill all vegetation. How, then, do creationists (or other supporters of the flood) suppose that herbivorous animals survived? Furthermore, after the flood, the carnivorous animals would also have to eat. Did they wait for the other animals to begin reproducing to eat? If not, they would be taking away from the short supply of animals.
But I guess if you believe that God created the Earth and everything in it in a matter of 6 days, you should have no problem believing that God supported the animals.

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SR71
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Message 82 of 194 (385257)
02-14-2007 8:01 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by jar
02-14-2007 1:31 PM


Re: answer is easy.
How could there have possibly been __years worth of food on the ark for thousands and thousands of animals? How would the food avoid becoming spoiled during that period of time?
An animal can't be a partial carnivore.
Honestly, I suppose there doesn't need to be an explanation, given that strict Bible supporters believe that God dropped food from heaven for the Israelites for 40 years.
Edited by SR71, : No reason given.

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SR71
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Message 84 of 194 (385271)
02-14-2007 9:01 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by bluegenes
02-14-2007 8:56 PM


Re: answer is easy.
What is the reason for people completely ignoring logic and reason? There is nothing that I deem worthy of complete and unquestioned belief.

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SR71
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Message 91 of 194 (385340)
02-15-2007 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by bluegenes
02-14-2007 9:11 PM


Re: answer is easy.
bluegenes writes:
Religion, or rather, before the liberal religious object, certain types of religion. The promise of heaven and the threat of hell are powerful for some people who've been indoctrinated with literalist interpretations of the Bible in childhood.
I guess I knew this. What probably makes it most shocking is that I used to believe it!
bluegenes writes:
Be careful with all the biologists around here! It's called an omnivore, and you're one!
That's not what I meant. An omnivore is not a partial carnivore because there is no such thing as a partial carnivore. You can't partially ONLY eat meat, and when I originally posted about carnivores, I was referring to obligate carnivores.
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SR71
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Message 92 of 194 (385341)
02-15-2007 8:13 AM
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02-14-2007 9:45 PM


Re: answer is easy.
(I know you're playing, but I will continue to reply)
jar writes:
That's no problem. Where do you think all the water for the rain came from? The food was dehydrated and the excess moisture of course went into the atmosphere.
That still doesn't answer our issue of space in the ark.
jar writes:
Of course not. They were all herbivores. Carnivores only evolved after the flood, and you can tell how evolved a kind is based on that. The more evolved kinds are fully carnivore, lessor evolved kinds are omnivores and the least evolved kinds are still herbivores.
What evidence is there for this claim? Let's compare it to evidence AGAINST this claim.
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SR71
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Message 93 of 194 (385342)
02-15-2007 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Quetzal
02-15-2007 8:08 AM


Re: answer is easy.
Quetzal writes:
That's easy. There weren't "thousands and thousands of animals" on the ark. There were only a few representative "kinds". You know, like "chordate kind", etc. The ark only had to be the size of a houseboat - and since it was substantially larger, there was plenty of food. Of course, explaining the hypermacroevolution over the few intervening centuries is a bit problematic. I once calculated that, based on Morris' ~8000 kinds, that we're looking at something over 1300 speciation events per year since the Flud to reach the minimum biodiversity we see today. 8000 may even be a bit high, but that just means hypermacroevolution took place more rapidly. And the YECs claim evilutionists don't have enough time for their theory...
Well, you replied to yourself for me. I must say, you're very convincing. How could I have been so obviously wrong?
Edited by SR71, : these quote tags are killing me
Edited by SR71, : this is getting irritating. fixed.

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