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Eternal Life (thanks, but no thanks)

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Teapots&unicorns
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Message 120 of 296 (513075)
06-24-2009 5:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 119 by Jaderis
04-30-2009 6:14 AM

Re: Shutup and Kiss my ring, already
I'd like to bring up a point that may or may not have been brought up earlier in the thread: assuming an afterlife exists, as well as the assumed prerequisites and consequences (by Mod), would we really want to worship/follow this God person anyway?
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I'm a polyatheist - there are many gods I don't believe in
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Teapots&unicorns
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08-30-2009 6:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 123 by Jaderis
08-20-2009 5:08 AM

Re: Choosing to be unable to choose ... for sin.
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I wouldn't concern myself about spending an eternity with God whilst currently loved ones perish in hell. That which makes a person attractive and good and worthwhile and loveable is the image of God in which they are made: God is good and worthwhile and attractive and loveable. That image will be removed from the person before they are cast into the pit. All that will remain attaching to them is the horror of their evil. There would be nothing about them to love anymore.
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You're disgusting. That story is disgusting. I don't want to be in your god's graces. He is a despicable character.
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Seconded
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts
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I'm a polyatheist - there are many gods I don't believe in
- Dan Foutes
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"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has widely been considered as a bad move."
- Douglas Adams
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Teapots&unicorns
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08-31-2009 2:40 PM 		Reply to: Message 128 by iano
08-31-2009 9:28 AM

Re: Kim il-YHWH
The saved person is one who has (effectively) decided that God's way for them is the way they want to go, that it's the destination they want to arrive at. Once that overarching decision has been made there is no need to revisit it or "grow up and leave home" from it.
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I see your point, but unfortunately (for you) there are people who decide they want to at least try to grow up and be their own people and, in the meantime, are ultimately punished by God for either not following his directions correctly or turning their back on the invisible man that they had no legitimate reason to believe in anyway. "Kind and just"....yeah
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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
- Stephen Roberts
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I'm a polyatheist - there are many gods I don't believe in
- Dan Foutes
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"In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has widely been considered as a bad move."
- Douglas Adams
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Teapots&unicorns
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09-02-2009 1:41 PM 		Reply to: Message 138 by iano
09-02-2009 11:06 AM

Re: Choosing to be unable to choose ... for sin.
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Warning someone that the path they are wandering leads (you know but they don't yet) to a horrific destination and them choosing to ignore you doesn't mean you shouldn't warn them.
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It's as appropriate I end there as they except that I was warned. All the more reason to warn them - appropriate as it is they end up there if they indeed do.
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Yes, but why should the warned person actually believe your warning? They get enough grief from the other 2/3 of the world that aren't Christian anyway. Why should they believe that they need to repent to Jesus when doing so will somehow piss off Vishnu?
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