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Author Topic:   Probability of the existence of God
ringo
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Message 213 of 219 (721457)
03-07-2014 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by Phat
03-07-2014 10:15 AM


Re: Probability
Phat writes:
By definition,(as defined by believers) God is not a figment nor content of human imagination.
Unfortunately, believers don't get to have their own set of definitions for everything.
Phat writes:
We must first assume...for the sake of argument(and in order to prove/disprove) that if God can even exist,then by definition God is not a product of human imagination.
Again, you can leave out the "by definition".
God is, in fact, a product of the human imagination - which may or may not resemble some real entity.
The probability of some known entity existing, such as a black zebra with white stripes, can be estimated. For unknown entities, such as gods, how do you even do the calculation? That's why I use the term "likelihood" instead of probability for cases where I can't do the math.
The likelihood of gods existing would seem to be very small. The likelihood of them resembling the human imagination of gods is even smaller.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 218 of 219 (721557)
03-09-2014 2:18 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Phat
03-08-2014 1:08 PM


Re: Facts, assertions, and lack of evidence
Phat writes:
ringo writes:
God is, in fact, a product of the human imagination - which may or may not resemble some real entity.
I disagree. This fact is not established...only assumed for now...due to lack of evidence.
Maybe I wasn't clear. Everything you think about God is a product of your imagination. That is not to say that God is only a product of your imagination. A real "God" might exist but there is no way to know whether your imaginings about God have any resemblance to a real God.
Phat writes:
This whole idea that humans define/frame reality is a hallmark of unbelievers thinking.
It's a hallmark of thinking, period, that what we think is only what we think. It is not necessarily what is.
It's only an empty arrogant claim by believers that they understand what really is.
Phat writes:
IF GOD exists, GOD would quite likely...in fact most certainly NOT be a product of the human imagination. Our idea of GOD would be.
That's what I'm saying: our ideas about gods or God or GOD or God-in-twenty-foot-high-flashing-red-italics are always only in our imagination.

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