Why was a flood needed?

'No, I admitted that God could be an evil trickster'however it is plainly obvious to me that evos have misinterprated evidence to fit their theory rather than God being wrong,because he is
no liar or trickster.but humans are , just look at neanderthal man and how evo's tried to convince us he was a stooping ape like beast!'So you are delusional. Why am I not surprised?'no i am not dilusional however you are insulting!'Except that you are taking about your interpretation of His word from a book that you think is His word 'Again God is not a liar and has quuite clearly shown that his word is true with the completion of the prophets.one thing that is not mentioned is evolution but CREATION is quite clearly mentioned.'The findings were not baffling, they were very clear and clearly showed that the worldwide flood is a myth. 'well lets look at what we would find if there was a flood ,we would look for a large amount of quickly fossilised creatures suddenly and quickly buried , and guess what Randy,as clear as the nose on my face that is what we found!!!

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well lets look at what we would find if there was a flood ,we would look for a large amount of quickly fossilised creatures suddenly and quickly buried , and guess what Randy,as clear as the nose on my face that is what we found!!!

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It should be as clear as the nose on your face that a worldwide flood did not produce the ordered fossil record. The fossil record is such a clear falsification of the flood that I am surprised YECs ever bring it up. All the YEC explanations of the fossil record as flood based are easily shown to be total nonsense.The fossil record is only one of many falsifications of the worldwide flood but it is one that is clear to anyone will think logically about the evidence, which you clearly aren't.Maybe you think oak trees ran up the mountains that creationists say didn't exist before the flood faster than velociraptors ran up the mountains that creationists say didn't exist before the flood so that they got buried higher in the fossil record because they were higher on the mountains that YECs say didn't exist before the flood, but I don't find those sort of arguments very convincing.Randy

God's word is written in the universe around us. It is man's word that is recorded in the Bible. I agree with you that God is not a liar, and so when the fossil record and geologic layers tell us there was no flood it is easy to believe that this record of God's universe is truthful and that man's record of God's words as recorded in the Bible is flawed.--Percy

'It should be as clear as the nose on your face that a worldwide flood did not produce the ordered fossil record. The fossil record is such a clear falsification of the flood that I am surprised YECs ever bring it up. All the YEC explanations of the fossil record as flood based are easily shown to be total nonsense. 'your response is all too predictable, you deny it is evidence when it can be evidence of the flood, i will have a better respect for evo's if they start admitting their evidence can be intepreted differently.the 'i'm right your wrong' thing is boring.'
'Maybe you think oak trees ran up the mountains'you keep trying to ridicule me, when in fact you have not even listened. what about neanderthal man,why should i believe evo's?

and mans words say we evolved , but i believe the fossils are proof of God's word , for why should i believe men over God even your logic says not to.

And while Mike is trying to explain how animals and plant life ran up the mountains to get away from the flood, maybe he can also explain how a flood produces paleosols or laterites, evaporites, fossilized mud cracks and rain drops, and sand dunes with wonderful little fossilized lizard tracks. And that's the short list.Since the experts are not enterprating the evidence correctly or without bias, perhaps you could tell us how you, guided by the Bible, would interpret this stuff.

Maybe you should see what current literature has to say about the Neanderthal. Science is ALLOWED and SUPPOSED to change when new data and evidence are presented or discovered. Why can't you understand that?

well lets see then (i've noticed the avoidance of neanderthal man)laterites are caused by weathering and i am sure that the 40 days and nights of rain are sufficient.rain drops ? isn't that one a bit obvious? fossilised lizard tracks , what about it? sorry this does not prove or disprove anything! now answer me , are not evo's liars when it comes to neanderthal man.

even Darwin admitted it about the fossils why cant you, and why werent these fossils eaten away , the flood can explain!!

I agree with you, though I would state it differently: the fossils are a record of God's word. But you're not being asked to believe men over God. You are instead being asked why you accept the words of men recorded in the Bible over the actual direct word of God as recorded in the earth and universe.--Percy

'Science is ALLOWED and SUPPOSED to change when new data and evidence are presented or discovered. Why can't you understand that? 'Let me make this clear , what you have just said proves to me evo's will misenterperate evidence according to their theory , why dont you be honest and just admitt it!

'But you're not being asked to believe men over God. You are instead being asked why you accept the words of men recorded in the Bible over the actual direct word of God as recorded in the earth and universe.'we are speaking to each other with words , God is word in the beginning the word was with God , if he is able to speak to us with words through his word why would he have us dig , its obvious his words are true as proved with the completion of the old testament concerning messiah!

besides i do not reject what is said in the earth just your interpretation of it , which is mans word!

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well lets see then (i've noticed the avoidance of neanderthal man)laterites are caused by weathering and i am sure that the 40 days and nights of rain are sufficient.rain drops ? isn't that one a bit obvious? fossilised lizard tracks , what about it? sorry this does not prove or disprove anything! now answer me , are not evo's liars when it comes to neanderthal man.

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So was neanderthal man fully human or not? If not were they saved on the ark? Are those neanderthal skeletons post flood? If they are post flood and humans which of the grandsons of Noah are they descended from?Exactly what lies about neanderthal man are you claiming? Usually when creationist accuse "evos" of lying they are just repeating lies they have heard from YECs. If you want to discuss neanderthal man you should probably do so in another thread somewhere.As to fossilized lizard tracks, the tracks we have discussed here the most are the those in the permian Coconino Sandstoneshttp://EvC Forum: Crand Canyon Tracks Were Not Formed During a Worldwide Flood -->EvC Forum: Crand Canyon Tracks Were Not Formed During a Worldwide Flood Fossilized tracks, nests and animals burrows are found throughout the fossil record and are just one of many falsifications of the myth of a worldwide flood.Randy

'So was neanderthal man fully human or not?'do you know if you shaved bathed and clothed neanderthal man you would not look at him any differently in the street from another person.neanderthal man is a man . he suffered arthriris and ricets because of the cold , he had a slightly prominent forehead like an aboriginee does, he is in no way proof of evolution.
as for lucy she was an ape and i'm pretty certain the rest of he finds are aswell!