Evolution of the Soul

I'm a human being, but I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I don't "feel" anyone in here but me. Soul? I don't know what that is. It's pretty obvious that I don't have one. Probably, you don't, either.If you're feeling other beings inside you, maybe you should seek some help for that? Let me ask you this. If you believe in an immaterial soul, which cannot be detected because physical matter cannot affect it, then how could it affect the physical matter of your body and brain? If the soul transcends the physical, how could it connect to your physical body?

No, not really. What reason might that be? And your evidence that there is not an afterlife for all critters? No, science disregards the idea of an afterlife because it's not testable. Science does not say there is no afterlife, only that there is no way to test whether or not there is an afterlife. Well, I don't know. Here we move from the areas where Science can validly answer a question into areas where no answer is possible. Even if Science were to find a place in the brain that when tickled switched on or off the belief in an afterlife, it would prove nothing more to a theist than that we finally understand how GOD did it.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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The world does not matter, the world of science is worthless.

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I guess you will be throwing away all of your music, then, and chucking your computer out of the window, seeing as music is "of the world", and therefore "doesn't matter" and since your computer was made possible through science, which is worthless.Right?This message has been edited by schrafinator, 10-21-2005 06:03 PM

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I am unaware of a scientific reasoning for the being that all of us feel inside of us. The presence of a soul.

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What feeling, exactly?

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The majorly accepted and represented idea of evolution does not mention anything of a soul in it's explanation of human evolution.

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That's because science deals with observable natural phenomena....doesn't mean souls don't exist, of course. It only means that science doesn't deal with them.

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Is my soul, as a human being, part of a result of increased intelligence? Is it simply imaginary, and because of our increase size in brain capacity, we are able to postulate about these imaginary things?

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That is my personal opinion, since there is quite a bit of positive evidence that the brain can, in controlled, artificial conditions, be induced to give people strong religious feelings.But there is no way to say that souls can't exist.

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Or are our souls part of an interconnection due to the power and grace of a divine being?

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Like I said, people can have certain parts of their brains stimulated and they then feel this "interconnected" feeling with the divine or with a greater power, or the entire universe. Also, strong religious feelings are associated with temporal lobe epilepsy.

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Is an afterlife an idea to be laughed at?

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That's up to the individual to decide for themselves.

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Does the Theory of evolution preside over the idea of some sort of soul existant in an afterlife?

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The ToE has nothing to do with souls, since soulds aren't observed as a natural phenomena. There's no evidence for them, so they are ignored....remember, that's "ignored", not "assumed not to exist."

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The world does matter, but I think I was trying to convey something different.

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What feeling, exactly?

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The feeling of being, I was talking to a friend of mine, and he said that he had an overwhelming feeling of being, like something more than his physical self. He is valedvictorian, and he applied to Princeton.

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I am smiling.

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I'm a human being, but I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I don't "feel" anyone in here but me.

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try really hard

As my daughter would say, "He's all that..."

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

my aaargument sunk so fast, i really didnt think it out as well as I should have.

Wassup, B? Meet in chat, YOThis message has been edited by Phat, 10-21-2005 05:01 PM

I'm... trying... wait! Is that it?Wait, no, false alarm. Just some gas.

I believe my soul exists and I can tell it’s there. (at least it seems like its there) I think that humans evolved to their current existence before god gave them a soul. When they ”ate the fruit and gained the knowledge’ is metaphorical for evolving to a point where they could sustain the soul. I don’t think a cluster of cells in a womb has a soul, I think a person has a soul. So, I think the soul is born when your existence begins {whenever that is} and it develops as you develop. This world {not just earth, btw} is the training grounds for the soul. The soul uses the physical body to develop and interact with other souls in preparation for the afterlife. Well, since your physical body dies, I think the soul goes to some non-physical realm. Here, I believe they interact as well but none of the previous physical interactions are possible, more stuff like faith, hope, and love, also interaction can occur between souls that were not ”alive’ at the same time.So, if all of your pleasure is based on physical means, when you die you will be in a hell because you have no way of being happy. If you base your pleasure on non-physical means, the ones that can transcend death and can exist in the afterlife, then your afterlife will be heavenly. Perhaps all the souls go to the same place after death, but the way you lived your life determines how you will experience the afterlife, if it will be good or bad. Now, how do you know what pleasures are good? I’d say read the New Testament and listen to what Jesus says. It’s possible. It just doesn’t seem that way to me because of what I feel and believe. It is entirely possible that I have deluded myself into thinking I have a soul when, in fact, I do not. But I trust myself in what I consider to be reality and when I start to loose trust in myself I start heading towards nihilism, which I think is a load of crap. In my view the world does matter because it is required for the souls to develop. When you call the world of science worthless I think you mean in the sense of your personal salvation but whatever, you’re alive now and shouldn’t miss out on all the fun and comfort science has provided you. The world of science is priceless.

You're just being a smartass, have the old CF call the new CF and tell him to join the discussion.or are they both there and he's the one that wrote this part: Via the mind.The soul is non-physical, the brain is physical and the mind resides between the two.Things like thoughts and ideas, which come from the mind, are not physical things but they do come from a physical process, which comes from the brain. There's a difference between the two, the mind and the brain.Its like our minds are a demension door and the souls are in the ethereal plane which allows the souls to interact on the prime material plane, via the brain/body.soul1 uses mind1 to interact with brain1 which causes body1 to interact with body2 which causes brain2 to interact with mind2 and soul2. Thus we have 2 souls interacting in the physical realm.

There is no "between", for starters.And you're explanation simply substitutes one meaningless word for another and pushes the problem back one step. Now you have to explain how a non-physical mind affects the body. All right, another gamer on the board! Sweet. 2nd Edition or Third?

It's very nice that this is in a faith and belief area so you can spout any nonesense you want and give no support for it beyond maintaining your belief in it. It certainly makes things easier for you.You can believe it all you want, but the statement I quoted is inane. It's just a damned good thing that all those people in the medical sciences didn't agree so we have medicine and treatments for disease. It's good that all those engineers and physicists didn't agree with you so we have computers and all the other wonderful technological devices that make life better.