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crashfrog
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Message 18 of 74 (196412)
04-03-2005 11:56 AM


He was kind of like the first rock-star pope. And I guess he was a good guy. You know, unless you were a woman who didn't want to get pregnant. Or gay. Or a scientist trying to help people with the same disease he had with stem cell treatments.
Did the church ever apologize for helping the Nazis kill all those Jews? I don't remember it doing that, but maybe I wasn't paying attention.

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Message 56 of 74 (196823)
04-05-2005 2:29 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by berberry
04-05-2005 1:57 AM


As wrong as the pope might have been in all these things, is it not possible that in his own mind he believed he was doing the right thing?
That's how you detect true evil. That's who the evil people are - the ones that are hurting and killing people because they think they're doing the right thing.

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crashfrog
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Message 58 of 74 (196829)
04-05-2005 2:56 AM
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04-05-2005 2:39 AM


An intention to good that results in bad is how you detect true evil?
Yes, exactly. What do you think the 9/11 hijackers thought they were doing? People don't kill themselves for evil; they kill themselves because they think they're doing the right thing.
Evil does exist; you see it any time you meet a person who's so convinced that they're in the right that they have no room for doubt, and that there's no price they won't pay to achieve what they think is "right."
But I wonder, what do you call an intention to bad that results in bad?
"Selfish."
Or better yet, an intention to bad that results in good?
"Accident."

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