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Author Topic:   GOD Bless John Paul II
contracycle
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Message 40 of 74 (196629)
04-04-2005 7:17 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by nator
04-03-2005 6:29 PM


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contracycle
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Message 41 of 74 (196630)
04-04-2005 7:18 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Dr Jack
04-04-2005 6:20 AM


Re: I don't believe in evil.
quote:
No-one has ever, in the entire history of the universe, done anything because they were 'evil'. It doesn't take evil people to commit evil acts. It takes normal people. Decent people. People who believe in their cause.
Agreed 100%

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contracycle
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Message 42 of 74 (196631)
04-04-2005 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by AdminJar
04-02-2005 5:57 PM


He will be missed by his faithful, as will the Shah of Iran.
In all these cases, the sentimentality arises from their heirarchical position. Virtual none of their followers meet them, and therefore cannot know if he was a good man or otherwise; but as we see in scenes from Rome, people are in tears, all because of a man they likely never met. They ATTRIBUTE holiness to him becuase he was head of the church. All these tears and histrionics are a real-time demonstration of how the delusions of power and constructed sociology can affect the mentality of individuals. And not for the better.
My feelings on the Pope are well represented by this article:
quote:
The Pope has blood on his hands
The Pope did great damage to the church, and to countless Catholics
Terry Eagleton
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian
John Paul II became Pope in 1978, just as the emancipatory 60s were declining into the long political night of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. As the economic downturn of the early 70s began to bite, the western world made a decisive shift to the right, and the transformation of an obscure Polish bishop from Karol Wojtyla to John Paul II was part of this wider transition. The Catholic church had lived through its own brand of flower power in the 60s, known as the Second Vatican Council; and the time was now ripe to rein in leftist monks, clap-happy nuns and Latin American Catholic Marxists. All of this had been set in train by a pope - John XIII - whom the Catholic conservatives regarded as at best wacky and at worst a Soviet agent.
The Pope has blood on his hands | Terry Eagleton | The Guardian

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contracycle
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Message 62 of 74 (196852)
04-05-2005 4:55 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by jar
04-04-2005 3:25 PM


Re: Evil? Maybe.
quote:
Again, IMHO, total nonsense. I see no way that he can be held responsible for ANY HIV deaths.
He can and he will.

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contracycle
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Message 63 of 74 (196854)
04-05-2005 5:01 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by jar
04-04-2005 6:42 PM


Re: Evil? Maybe.
quote:
Now you may find that sad, I know I do, but it certainly not evil. The Church's position is that contraception ( other than a brief nod to timing and abstenence) is a mortal sin. Use a rubber and your soul goes to hell. In their viewpoint your soul is more important than your life.
And that ius precisely why no religious instution, especially christian ones, should ever, ever be treated as humane, as liberal, as contributing to human wellfare or the betterment of the species.
Because when it comes right down to it, they do not in fact care about human life at all. They care more about dogma than life; more about their precious revelations than actual warm, breathing, loving, sexual human beings.
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contracycle
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Message 64 of 74 (196855)
04-05-2005 5:09 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by AdminPhat
04-05-2005 3:23 AM


Re: And may John Paul II rest in peace
quote:
Any further comments that are appropriate for a deceased person?
"In the richest corridors the world has ever seen
A polar-white skullcap floats by
This propaganda is long overdue:
The Beast in Rome must die!"
- A0S3, Popes Eye Steak

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