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crashfrog
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10-29-2004 5:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 3 by Dan Carroll
10-29-2004 3:01 PM

Damn, he beat me to it.
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Why did you include Rrhain on the list? He's never claimed to be an atheist. Or anything at all, for that matter.
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If you think you know his religious standpoint, you're making a considerable arrogant presumption, I feel.
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crashfrog
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10-29-2004 9:24 PM 		Reply to: Message 6 by mike the wiz
10-29-2004 6:38 PM

You guys really should observe logic, and not over-conclude by adding your own information, as I don't seem to be able to find where he said Rhain is an atheist.
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Fair enough. One way to interpret his statement is that he's lumping three vocal atheists together, except that Rrhain may not be an atheist.
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Another way to interpret his statement is that he's listing three persons who have taken opposing positions in the past; you would be right that that's not calling Rrhain anything at all. Maybe that's what he meant.
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11-06-2004 8:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by Hangdawg13
11-06-2004 7:42 PM

Also, part of what makes a deed good is that it is done selflessly with no expectation of reward.
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You don't think cooperation can be a good thing? I mean, certainly altruism is good, but that doesn't mean that the only good deeds are altruistic ones.
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Isn't it, as the saying goes, a better deed to teach a man to fish than to give him a fish? Does it stop being a good deed if you hire him to catch fish for you?
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crashfrog
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11-06-2004 8:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 26 by Hangdawg13
11-06-2004 7:42 PM

Damn, bit by the double-post bug.
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11-07-2004 11:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 30 by Hangdawg13
11-07-2004 11:15 PM

But how would we understand and appreciate the good of altruism if every good deed were rewarded here on earth?
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By the fact that we were rewarded for it. That would be our clue that we had done a good thing.
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