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Author Topic:   Underpass stains, burnt toast & the pervasiveness of the Cult of the Virgin Mary
RAZD
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Message 16 of 36 (495691)
01-23-2009 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by DevilsAdvocate
01-23-2009 10:06 PM


Re: Just call like you see it
Hey DA, bound for glory!
It is rather propos and ironic that this depiction of the Virgin Mary looks like a vagina don't you think? What was God thinking? Naughty little sky dad!!
But don't you see the duality - it's really the Vagina Mary, ready to receive god!!!
And what's that stain around it? (or is that a shadow ...)
Another question I have is, why do people feel some type of comfort in worshiping these type of images. Is it primarily out of ignorance or are there other factors involved. This truely defies my intellect.
They believe in miracles, they want to see one, and this is the closest they can get. Add confirmation bias and the "faith sees evidence of faith you don't see without faith" argument of John 10:10 and groupthink behavior ...
Enjoy.
Edited by RAZD, : duality
Edited by RAZD, : lol

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Granny Magda
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Message 17 of 36 (495696)
01-23-2009 11:28 PM


Stuff That Looks Like Jesus
This shit never fails to amuse me. There are more pareido-links here;
http://godhatesfraggles.net/stuff-that-looks-like-jesus/
Here is one of my personal favourites. Creepy Jesus is watching you shower!
The only explanation I can come up with for this nonsense is that many, if not most believers secretly harbour grave doubts about their faith. That's fair enough. Only an idiot doesn't doubt. The thing is, that with so much emotional investment in religion, those doubts are sometimes painful to acknowledge. Hence the miraculous appearance of Jesus in a stained bathroom fitting. It must be reassuring to have an aid in clinging onto those beliefs.
That and the fact that some of these guys are just plumb crazy.
"I once saw the face of Jesus in a film..." - John Oliver
Mutate and Survive

"The Bible is like a person, and if you torture it long enough, you can get it to say almost anything you'd like it to say." -- Rev. Dr. Francis H. Wade

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RAZD
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Message 18 of 36 (495697)
01-23-2009 11:47 PM
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01-23-2009 11:28 PM


Re: Stuff That Looks Like Jesus
Hey Granny,
Hence the miraculous appearance of Jesus in a stained bathroom fitting.
... these guys are just plumb crazy.
Or plumbing crazy.
The only explanation I can come up with for this nonsense is that many, if not most believers secretly harbour grave doubts about their faith.
Well the real nonsense part of it is thinking it is jesus\mary\etc instead of it just looking like a person, humorous but nothing special.
Enjoy

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Brian
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Message 19 of 36 (495734)
01-24-2009 5:33 AM


Be very useful if we knew what Jesus looked like in the first place!

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Message 20 of 36 (495760)
01-24-2009 7:15 AM
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01-24-2009 5:33 AM


Brian writes:
Be very useful if we knew what Jesus looked like in the first place!
Yeah, this is the part I don't get, either. How do they make the leap from "Gee, how interesting, that looks like a male figure!" to "Wow, it's Jesus! It's a sign from heaven! Break out the candles, call the newspapers!"
--Percy

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bluescat48
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Message 21 of 36 (495768)
01-24-2009 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by RAZD
01-23-2009 10:49 PM


Re: Just call like you see it
One thing that gets me about these so called images, is this, what did Mary or Jesus or any other of these individuals actually look like. There are no portraits of Mary. It seems that people assume that the paintings from the renaissance are taken as if they are the actual portraits of the these people.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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Message 22 of 36 (495789)
01-24-2009 9:39 AM
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01-24-2009 7:28 AM


Re: Just call like you see it
You mean a picture like this:
If this what Jesus looked like (based on physical anthropology, forensic anthropology, human osteology and other related anthropological and biological evidence as shown here: Real Face Of Jesus), this clashes with the image most white Christians think of when they imagine what Jesus looks like (just as you said our impression of him is the Renaissance, Caucasian, white-washed depiction of Jewish figures) i.e.
This would also clash with the idea that his mother Mary also had brown eyes, brown skin, kinky type brown hair not the long flowing blond hair, blue eyes, fair complexion depicted and promoted by the Roman Catholic and Protestant churches as shown here:
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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RAZD
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Message 23 of 36 (495791)
01-24-2009 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by DevilsAdvocate
01-24-2009 9:39 AM


Re: Just call like you see it
NOOO that can't be right ...
You mean a picture like this:
If this what Jesus looked like (based on physical anthropology, forensic anthropology, human osteology and other related anthropological and biological evidence as shown here: Real Face Of Jesus)than his mother Mary also had brown eyes, brown skin, kinky type hair ...
That's the portrait of a terrorist!!!
Enjoy.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 24 of 36 (495792)
01-24-2009 9:47 AM
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01-24-2009 9:45 AM


Re: Jesus is a prisoner in Quantanamo for impersonating a terrorist!
Wow, I didn't even think of that?
How do we know that Jesus hasn't returned to Earth and isn't being held in Guantanamo!!
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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Huntard
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Message 25 of 36 (495793)
01-24-2009 9:52 AM
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01-23-2009 1:02 PM


It's obvious this is a dsiplay of The Dread Cthulhu. I resent everyone who disagrees with this! Repent, you will be eaten last!

I hunt for the truth

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Message 26 of 36 (495794)
01-24-2009 9:54 AM
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01-24-2009 9:52 AM


Jesus is a prisoner in Quantanamo for impersonating a terrorist!
Damit Huntard,
You messed up my awesome subtitle!

For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
Dr. Carl Sagan

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bluescat48
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Message 27 of 36 (495806)
01-24-2009 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by DevilsAdvocate
01-24-2009 9:39 AM


Re: Just call like you see it
I would assume that the first pic would be similar to the actual "Jesus."

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

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The Matt
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Message 28 of 36 (495866)
01-24-2009 5:41 PM


From Cectic.com
Edited by Admin, : Reduce image width.

  
lyx2no
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Message 29 of 36 (495899)
01-25-2009 12:24 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by DevilsAdvocate
01-24-2009 9:39 AM


Re: Just call like you see it
Grow the hair longer and add a few sea gull feathers . Damn!

Genesis 2
17 But of the ponderosa pine, thou shalt not eat of it; for in the day that thou shinniest thereof thou shalt sorely learn of thy nakedness.
18 And we all live happily ever after.

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Mercury
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Message 30 of 36 (495973)
01-25-2009 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by RAZD
01-24-2009 9:45 AM


Re: Just call like you see it
NOOO that can't be right ...
You mean a picture like this:
If this what Jesus looked like (based on physical anthropology, forensic anthropology, human osteology and other related anthropological and biological evidence as shown here: Real Face Of Jesus)than his mother Mary also had brown eyes, brown skin, kinky type hair ...
That's the portrait of a terrorist!!!
Enjoy.
It actually looks more like Tuco.

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