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Legend
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Message 30 of 126 (293530)
03-09-2006 7:29 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by veiledvirtue
03-08-2006 10:26 PM


veiledvirtue writes:
i actually got refused trying to start a similar thread about the Gods' of extremists. In my eyes.. the devil has his hands in there...
funny thing is.... at least on 9/11 their (extremists) prayers were answered. The Christian passengers' prayers were not.
If there is a God and she answers prayers, it sure ain't the Christian God.
the devil doesn't even come into it.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
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Message 31 of 126 (293534)
03-09-2006 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by veiledvirtue
03-08-2006 10:56 PM


good vs bad prayers
veiledvirtue writes:
quote:
The hijackers were likely praying to a slightly different deity to die gloriously.
i believe the difference is far from slight. good and bad are polar opposites.
Irrelevant. The fact remains that the God who stands for 'bad' answered their prayers.
The God who stands for 'good' at best ignored them.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
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Message 40 of 126 (293705)
03-09-2006 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by veiledvirtue
03-09-2006 1:24 PM


Re: good vs bad prayers
veiledvirtue writes:
until you can truly 'listen' and understand all sides, true knowledge and wisdom will stay dormant. until then.. enjoy the confusion
In my past experience the Christian definition of 'listening' is : 'accepting what I tell you despite it contradicting reality, other parts of the Bible and common sense'.
I take it you're using the word in the same manner.
You can, ofcourse, prove me wrong by explaining how the fact that 'good and bad are polar opposites' answers Coragyps's point about the hijackers prayers being answered.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
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Message 49 of 126 (293997)
03-10-2006 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by veiledvirtue
03-10-2006 11:45 AM


Re: good vs bad prayers
veiled virtue writes:
yes.. i truly believe you are at a disadvantage as arrogant as that may sound, i humbly mean it
that's very nice but you still haven't told us why Sidelined is at a disadvantage.
veiled virtue writes:
there are no spreadsheets or diagrams that i can give you on the guided and unguided..
oh sorry... I see that you have.
veiled virtue writes:
a heart guided by the mind leads to confusion, while one guided by the spirit becomes easy
so, you can't tell us why the 'guided' have it better than the 'unguided' but you are convinced that a heart guided by the spirit becomes easy (whatever that may mean).
you are aware that the Bible tells us that the heart is "deceitful" and "desperately sick" and shouldn't be trusted (Jer.17:9), are you ?

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
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Message 54 of 126 (294146)
03-10-2006 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by veiledvirtue
03-10-2006 1:17 PM


Re: good vs bad prayers
Legend writes:
that's very nice but you still haven't told us why Sidelined is at a disadvantage.
veiledvirtue writes:
hes at a disadvantage because of decision making
ookkk...I'm glad you cleared that up...
veiledvirtue writes:
and you should know the difference between truth and deceit if you have wisdom.. if not .. you will be regularly perplexed
..how can you have wisdom when you're not guided by your mind but by the 'spirit' ?
what do you define as 'wisdom' ?
and do prayers help you achieve this 'wisdom' ?

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
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Message 57 of 126 (294218)
03-11-2006 5:51 AM
Reply to: Message 56 by veiledvirtue
03-11-2006 1:41 AM


Re: good vs bad prayers
veiledvirtue writes:
i see you keep giving me the stick to poke the bees nest...
yes, I keep asking you questions that require more than some vague, spiritual-sounding, feel-good, appeal-to-emotion phrases as an answer.
veiledvirtue writes:
you have your own soul searching to do without me..deep inside i think you know the answers to your questions
I rest my case.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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