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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Yes, girls love nihilists. It's so romantic. That's why I am one.
If you have a purpose for being a nihilist, doesn't that imply that you are not a nihilist?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
I happened to bump into this web page. It seems pertinent to the topic under discussion here.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
So when you were agnostic, you believed in following the golden rule, and you thought that was good.
When atheists believe in following the golden rule, you label that "the greater good" and you apparently think that is bad. So when did you stop following the golden rule? How can you consider yourself a Christian, when you say that following the golden rule is bad?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Your response made no sense at all.
Then read it again, and again, and again, ...
Did you misunderstand me?
I understood you all too well. I'm wondering if you understand yourself. It seems that you have been fed a line of horse manure by right wing fundies. And apparently have swallowed it without even attempting to check whether it is correct.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
I made no association between the golden rule, and the greater good.
Why not?
I said, I said, and I quote "Liberals and athiests believe in the "greater good", which is whatever they think it should be at the moment."
The liberals and atheists that I know are very moral people, and they do follow the golden rule. Many liberals are christians. So why are you questioning their morality?
I never stopped following the golden rule.
In what way were you following the golden rule, when you categorized "liberals and atheists" as a group with suspect morality? Wasn't that entire post of yours (Message 34) in violation of the golden rule?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
But an atheist can do what ever he wants.
Where are you getting that crazy idea? The atheist gets his morals from society, just as the Christian does.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
You write the most offensive, insulting things, rat.
But keep in mind that he follows the golden rule
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
riVeRraT writes:
50 years ago, many Christian fundamentalists were racists, and were quoting scripture as the basis for their racism. But the only thing I have to compare it to is religious moral standards. Atheists do not have any "moral standards". Those are really great moral standards you can point to, riVeRraT. Or maybe Christians actually get their morality in the same way as everybody else - from their community. When their religious communities supported racism, that was part of their morality. Now that most religious communities have rejected racism, it is no long part of their morality. I put it to you that the difference you see in morality for atheists vs Christians is no more than a figment of your imagination.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
robinrohan writes:
iano writes: Well, of course one can make up any code or purpose that one wants to. Like a moral code that involves killing people who you think are immoral for example?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Atheism is extremely dangerous. Name one successful atheist civilization. China
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
Well, we have to decide what is meant by an "atheist civilization."
I am inclined to agree with that.
Sometimes I think the USA is one too. If they would only admit it.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
This is probably the first time that nwr has ever agreed with me about anything.
Maybe that's because you mostly post on nihilism, and I disagree with you about that. We probably agree on a lot, but there isn't much to debate when everybody agrees.
But what I had in mind was the extreme worldliness of American culture--the money mentality--which I do not think is very religious.
I sometimes describe that by saying that the true American religion is worship of the almighty dollar. But, yes, that's one of the things suggesting unadmitted atheism. To most Americans, religiosity seems to be little more than a social convention. Attendance at church is no more important than attendance at the Kiwanis club or the Elks lodge.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
I'm not too sure to what extent this reflects atheism exactly.
In its basic sense, atheism is a-theism, or living ones life without theism. For all practical purposes, a nominal Christian is an atheist.
It's possible to be an atheist and live by a self-denying moral code.
Yes, sure, I agree.
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