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Author Topic:   Atheism, a dangerous idea?
NosyNed
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Message 59 of 241 (328504)
07-03-2006 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by riVeRraT
07-03-2006 6:56 AM


What does this mean?
If a Christian displays anything but love in his actions, then I could say, well he really isn't following what he believes. It shows me the hypocrite in him, or that there is room for growth. The golden rule is a good thing, and should never lead to anything bad. (we all know it does, that is why I question just exactly how many christians there are.)
But an atheist can do what ever he wants. He act how he feels at the moment, and does have a set of morals to live by, and if he does, we just don't know what they are.
What does all this mean? Nothing, just a point.
This doesn't mean nothing to me RR. What this means to me is that there is a group of people who (for the most part) act morally toward their fellow humans without any super being watching over their shoulder promising unending reward or punishment.
It also tells me that there is another group of people who say that they will, without that super cop over them, run amuck. If they loose their "faith" that the super cop is there they will become dangeous psychopaths.
One group demonstrates by their current behavior the degree to which they can behave without external reward and punishment. The other group claims that they are monsters who have to have something with limitless power to control them.
I know who I pick to have a beer with.
Edited by NosyNed, : stupid spelling

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NosyNed
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Message 88 of 241 (328574)
07-03-2006 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by riVeRraT
07-03-2006 1:48 PM


All believers ...
What I can't understand is you, or Ned associating all believers to be like that. That to me is prejudice.
I know that not all believers are like that. What I see is some believers telling me that they are like that. In fact, it is a very common assertion made here that without God one can not behave morally. What I see is many people (believers and not) behaving morally because they, themselves with anything imposed externally are like that. What I also am told by the fundamentalists is that people can not behave well without the imposition from outside.
Since these fundamentalists obviously have no idea of how other people feel or what motivates them the only conclusion I can draw is that they are describing what they, themselves, are motivated by. That means that without a belief they think they will be psychotic in some way.
I have heard and read a number of sermons from the leaders of your community that rant about the dangers of atheism because of what it does to morals. I hope they are not right but they hint at a grave danger.
Many, many atheists are not any danger since they have shown they can be moral on their own. However, these leaders of your community claim that they will degenerate into animals if their faith is lost.
Since these same leaders promulgate lies in order to maintain the faith that they are esposing I worry that the ill-founded faith they hand out will be lost by some members of their flocks when those members find out some of the truth. How many of those will then be without moral compass and allow us to, indeed, see the dangers of atheism?

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