Atheism, a dangerous idea?

Show me where the rule of the "greater good" is written down. Where does it come from.I have always believed it was from God, but possibly clouded by the "world". In Message 47 I say "I know many atheists who are more Christian than Christians."But the only thing I have to compare it to is religious moral standards. Atheists do not have any "moral standards". That is all I am pointing out.That doesn't make atheists any more, or less moral than a Christian. In no way do I think Christians are more "moral" than Atheists. I never said suspect morality, I said undefined. But as I have pointed out, has nothing to do with their actual morality. I am not judging atheists, just pointing out that they have no well defined morality, other than not believing in God, if that is even possible. I believe God uses atheists.

Funny, I was even thinking of bad things when I wrote that. Why are you getting defensive?As many conversations as we have had, you should know exactly how I feel about atheists.Please, point me to the moral code of an atheist.

Good thing because if he is one of those fundamentalist bible thumpers he would think it would be wrong to have a beer with you anyway. Although he would probably still do it if he were alone and you promised not to tell his brethern.

So you are saying an atheists individual moral standard is limited to the law? That is not what I am saying. I am saying that it is not defined. I believe the opposite of that, and that is God put His laws on our minds and hearts. An atheist may interpret this inner feeling as the greater good. There is no escape from how God has made us, even if you don't believe in God. But you can choose not to follow this inner feeling. [qs]Often the issue comes up where Christians in particular lay claim to some objective morality, but when they are asked for specifics, so far they have failed to produce any absolute or objective examples.[/q]sLike I said before, if someone claims to be a Christian, some of the morals are clearly defined, and gives me authority to say things like Hitler was not acting like a Christian.I cannot do the same for an atheist when it comes to morals, because we don't know what they are just by the label "atheist."What is the difference between a good atheist, and a bad one.

I'm not a believer and I have a code: "Do what feels honorable; do not do what feels dishonorable."(I don't claim to live up to this code very well, but that's the code).

IT's amazing how you both mis-interpret what I say, then gang up on me.
Way to go.

I always respect what you have to say, but this is a pretty stupid assertion. I am not claiming that atheists would be like that, why would you claim Christains would be like that?I also don't see it the way you described it. I don't feel like there is a super-cop watching over me, and if wasn't there, then I could do what I want. Remember, I came from being agnostic. I have always acted morally towards my fellow man without the need of a supercop to make me feel guilty about doing bad things. It is because I felt this way, that I was led to God, not the other way around.Atheists who feel this way are on a journey to finding God. Probably a more clear one than one who is doing it church. They will find God the hard way, like I had to, but then be all the better for it. In the mean time, that doesn't make anyone a bad person, so I don't know why everyone here is making these outrages claims that because atheists do not have clearly defined maorals as a group, that must mean they are bad. Is there more than one guilty conscience here? Because atheists never change their personality when they drink.

Awesome, thats great, and honest. But it is your personal code, and subject to what you think is honorable. That is a prime example of what I am saying.Would you kill someone who killed one of your loved ones? Is that honorable? In some cultures, that is considered honor.Does the law define your honor?

That is exactly how I want to be judged.

Jesus turned water into wine for a bunch of drunks. I want to be "Jesus like".Why does everyone always turn to the word fundementalists?
Isn't it possible to be a Christian on this board and not be one?

That's right. It's based purely on personal feelings. There's nothing else to base it on. Whether I would or not I don't know. Probably not. But I would certainly want to.

riVeRrat1 Be tolerant of those who cannot do so.2 Make helping others the point of your day.3 When faced with grief bear your burden gracefully.4 Make no plans that require the sacrifice of others that you would not also willingly sacrifice on their behalf.5 In the choice between reputation and character remember that reputation is what other people think you are while character is who you really are.6 5 minutes walking on the beach holding your childs hand is the highest honour you can ever have.7 Just because there is no God out there does not free you of responsibilty for your actions. Indeed ,it magnifies that responsibilty, for you are all that stands in the way of justice being served or revenge being exacted.8 Death is not the end of things, just the end of your participation. Leave the world better than you found it if only in easing anothers burden.9 Love is a verb not a nounEdited by sidelined, : No reason given.Edited by sidelined, : No reason given.

I hope everyone is reading this, because this is my point exactly. Thank you for being honest.

Thats awesome, but again just proves my point. Your is different than robinrohan. And while you may or may not agree, it is a "floating" set of moral rules.I want to ask you question, why do you feel this is the way you should live?

Not at all. Law has nothing to do with morality. Exactly the same as between a good Christian and a bad one.

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