WIll God save us if we don't believe in the Resurrection?

I was told once that the worst thing was to say that satan had raised Larazus - must have been a myth.

But he's still God at the same time, clearly indicating that the game is rigged. Now if he FULLY gave up his power while he was human - that would have meant something but the game was rigged from the outset.

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If he had still been GOD it would not have been possible to kill him.

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Sure it would - if he was God he could be both states at the same time. If he couldn't manage this, THEN he couldn't be God!You are generally straight forward Jar but I've never seen an answer from a christian about this aspect of God/Jesus that does not seem like a dodge.This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 18-Jun-2005 11:27 AM

Yes you are right..anyone who wants to discuss this further:http://EvC Forum: What's so great about the death of Jesus? -->EvC Forum: What's so great about the death of Jesus?

I agree with Brian - if Jesus really was the son of/or God then it seems like a circle act to me.http://EvC Forum: What's so great about the death of Jesus? -->EvC Forum: What's so great about the death of Jesus?

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Not at all. In fact, I'm perfectly open to some kind of God somewhere or some higher power or existence pre-singularity. I'm not open to Christianity and the bible, though.

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I'm just the same, maybe there is a god but it's not the christian one.BTW - he will get bored of trying to convert you and move onto someone else soon, but I've guess you've seen all of the questions designed to open up some chink in the armour? (I have)This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 31-Jul-2005 07:26 PMThis message has been edited by Charles Knight, 31-Jul-2005 07:33 PM

Let's see how my answers compare to hisSo I am guessing you do not accept Christ as your saviour, or accept him as the son of God.NopeWhat is your reasoning for that?The bible, it's quite dull the narrative makes little sense, it's blown out of the water by everything we know about science,history and culture.How difficult it is to accept Jesus these days, with all that Christians have done wrong in this worldI'm not bothered in that sense what they have done but in terms of me, their religion makes no sense at all.How many times have you walked into a church and said to yourself, this is a bunch of crap?Lots - everything time since I was 15.just what is the meaning of the word Jesus?To me it's the name given to a fictional construct in the bible based upon a man who *may* have existed.

Actually RiverRat is entirely right and I'm wrong. He has,in fact, being suggesting the same things since I've encountered him And you know what - of all the christians we have here, while I may disagree with him about the christianity thing, he is the most honest and sincere one here in terms of trying to talk about his faith.RR is trying to open our eyes to the lord and you know what, if I was in his shoes I'd do the same.