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WIll God save us if we don't believe in the Resurrection?

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Message 22 of 139 (216721)
06-13-2005 8:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 11 by Brian
06-13-2005 7:15 AM

off topic questions for Brian
Good explanation, I'd be impressed with you if I thought you actually believed any of this stuff (It seems you are playing devils advocate to prove the opposite point you are arguing for ) Alot of it is a too literal/fundamental for me to agree with, Adam and Eve actually existing for one. I don't have the time to really point out which parts specifically, maybe later.
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My off topic question is about your bible quoting. Which website do you use? How do you find the quotes that your 'point' is talking about? Can you 'search' the bible for passages about the discussion you're having, or do you just know these passages already?
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Message 49 of 139 (217601)
06-17-2005 10:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 45 by Brian
06-17-2005 7:28 AM

Re: Jesus death
Only one sin iis unforgiveable, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, all other sins can be forgiven.
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What about suicide?
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How do you blaspheme the holy spirit? Is it different from blesphemy in general?
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06-17-2005 1:15 PM 		Reply to: Message 52 by Brian
06-17-2005 11:38 AM

Re: Jesus death
Don't you think suicide is an unforgivable sin as well as blasphemy against the holy spirit?
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Message 54 of 139 (217665)
06-17-2005 1:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 45 by Brian
06-17-2005 7:28 AM

Re: Jesus death
As long as Hitler didn't blaspheme the Holy Spirit, then there is no reason why he cannot be saved.
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Don't you think that Hitler was blaspheming the holy spirit though?
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dsv writes:
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He was a Christian and killed Jews in the name of God so I suppose we can expect to hang out with him in Heaven someday.
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If he did do what he did in the name of God, and what he did was evil, then thats blaspheming the holy spirit, yes?
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Message 58 of 139 (217697)
06-17-2005 3:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 56 by Brian
06-17-2005 3:41 PM

Re: Jesus death
No problem.
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What about Hitler? Wasn't he blaspheming the holy spirit? You said that if he wasn't then he could be saved, but it seems that he was.
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edit: oops, didn't see the previous post
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or maybe it wasn't there yet, only 2 min. apart
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06-17-2005 3:53 PM 		Reply to: Message 57 by Brian
06-17-2005 3:44 PM

Re: Jesus death
If he convinced others to kill in God's name because he convinced them that the Holy Spirit wanted this, then I would agree.
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I don't know enough about the Hitler/Christian debate to make an informed decision.
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me neither
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Ever here this one:
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For it to be a sin you have to choose to do wrong, and you have to know what you are doing is wrong. IOW, ignorance of the law is an excuse. So, because Hitler thought he was doing the right thing, he could still be saved.
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