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Author Topic:   What evidence is needed to change a creationist
Buzsaw
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Message 13 of 144 (445022)
12-31-2007 9:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Lithodid-Man
12-24-2007 3:33 AM


A Whole Lot
Lithodid writes:

I want to hear exactly what evidence (if any) it would take to make you question, all or in part, the post-Morris version of creationism.

1. Falsify all the fulfilled Biblical prophecies. LOL!
2. Falsify the fact that God reveals himself to those of us who acknowledge him. According to the Bible he draws near to and reveals himself in manifold ways to those who draw to and acknowledge him.
3. Have your secularist researchers go to Nuweiba Beach at Aqaba and falsify the alleged chariot wheels encased in coral as well as all the corroborating evidence in the area relative to the Biblical Exodus account.
5. Empirically account for all the design evident in the DNA, the human cell and brain logically and mathmatically relative to the mathmatical probabilities.
6. Explain why your theory can circumvent the 1st law of thermodynamics relative to your contention that there was no before the BB.
7. Falsify the evidence of the supernatural relative to bo good and evil such as voodoo, the accult and such as is experienced from time to time in churches; things like exorcism, healings etc.
8. Explain the probabilities mathmatically as to how so many factors relative to life on earth just happen to be right in order for life as we observe it to exist; things like a the properties of the atmosphere etc, the location of sun and moon relative to earth, the properties of the planet's surface such as soil, water, gravity, the intensity of the sun's heat, etc, etc.
9. Verify that life began naturally void of ID, existed long enough to begin to multiply and the mathmatical probabilites of procreation of life to the extent that is observed today. I know we've been told, but nothing has come close, better than ID, yet to convince me.

I could go on and on. I realize that many of the above items are impossible for you but for me, that is just a few of what it would take for me to abandon my Buzsaw understanding of ID creationism.

Btw, many of us creationists do not agree with all the aspects of Morris's creationism.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 17 of 144 (445263)
01-01-2008 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Lithodid-Man
01-01-2008 4:34 AM


Re: A Whole Lot
I appreciate your clarified intent of this thread, Lithodid, in that perhaps it will serve to alleviate some of the frustration of evolutionists who see hardlined creationists as bulligerantly rejecting what evolutionists consider to be evident.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Buzsaw
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Message 30 of 144 (445774)
01-03-2008 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Aquilegia753
01-01-2008 8:42 PM


Aquilegia writes:

You would have to dig all around the Sinai Peninsula to a minimal depth of a hundred and fifty feet without coming up with Egyptian chariots indicating an Exodus.

Hi Aquilegia. Are you aware that according to the Biblical record all the chariots should be located in one crossing area at the bottom of the sea and that there is a video out of their likely discovery in the Gulf of Aqaba?

I'm wondering if you want to change your requirement relative to that rather than on land as your statement implies.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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