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Author Topic:   Do some Christians need prejudice?
riVeRraT
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Message 4 of 76 (178654)
01-19-2005 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by berberry
01-17-2005 2:25 PM


What did Jesus ever do to try to keep anyone in their place?
What did he ever do to try to segregate a minority?
What did he do to set an example of feeling superior to others?
Jesus was a warrior, and a nice guy. He put a lot of people in their place, especially hypocrytes, just the kind your talking about.
quote:
John 8:7
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.
I don't think he ever segraated minority, I think he taught the opposite. We are one body.
He preformed miricles, but it wasn't to put himself on top of others, but to show people that they too could do it to. He also taught the opposite of putting yourself above others. He taught us to humble ourselves. He touched the ill, hung out with the sinners, and prostitutes. He washed people's feet.
Kill em all, let God sort em out j/k
Let's leave it up to God who's going where, and get back to loving each other.
peace.

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riVeRraT
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Message 14 of 76 (178865)
01-20-2005 8:12 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by berberry
01-20-2005 1:48 AM


I'm no expert on Jesus, but I wasn't aware that he fought a war. What am I forgetting?
He fought a spiritual battle.
If you walk into a temple, and put down a bunch of pharisee's, thats like starting war.
He fought with the devil.
When they came to capture him to kill him, they asked "are you Jesus of nazerine?" He said yes, and they all fell down.
He fought demons, and drove them away.

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riVeRraT
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Message 36 of 76 (179100)
01-20-2005 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by berberry
01-20-2005 12:50 PM


Re: Jesus: Prince of Peace or God of War?
Well, I'll let Jesus speak according to Matthew 10:
34Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother, a daughterinlaw against her motherinlaw—
36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.’[e]
37Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
Yes, he is prince of peace, but most of his sermons talked about separating good from evil, people from people, sheeps from goats. Sounds like war to me.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 45 of 76 (179249)
01-21-2005 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by berberry
01-20-2005 9:14 PM


Re: Jesus: Prince of Peace or God of War?
It would appear to me that your church has sent you mixed messages.
Nice try to confuse the bible.
Jesus is the Prince of Peace, according to Isiah. He is the Prince of Peace period. Your own inner peace with the Lord. It is by his suffering that we may have peace. This is attainable by all who believe in him. If you don't believe in him, that is where the separation takes place, with you and the rest of the world. This is obvious today.
Jesus knew full well that not everyone in the world would follow his ways, and become the "perfect world". Again, it is the fault of man that we do not have peace, not Jesus. It's like you blame it on him, when you say, well since he's not the prince of peace, then I won't follow him. That sounds like ignorance, and arrogance. Then you become part of the cause why there is no peace.
Everyone searches for the truth. When they find it they have peace. Jesus is that truth, the way, the light of the world. Through him we have peace, and he sent us truth, by way of his Holy Spirit. He makes it very clear that if you don't follow him, you won't find it.
His way is the only way to true everlasting peace. In the end there will be false peace, world peace, but no one will have inner peace, so the peace won't last.
The messages are not mixed, you have just been deceived to what they really mean. Someone might have stole your peace. I pray that you would find it. I want you to have it.
*edit*
I just wanted to clarify something. Through your words in this forum, I get the feeling that you are a peaceful person, and full of love. So I didn't mean to imply anything less. But there may be more available to you.
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