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Author Topic:   Do some Christians need prejudice?
contracycle
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Message 3 of 76 (178045)
01-18-2005 5:13 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by berberry
01-17-2005 2:25 PM


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What did he do to set an example of feeling superior to others?
Fulfilled prophecy, allegedly - thus demonstrating the truth of the covenant with god entered into by the jews. The identity of a specific chosen people is not accidental and is fundamental to christinaity IMO. And that is why it lends itslef so well to factions and various forms of discrimination - explicitly the religion separates the worthy from the unworthy.
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contracycle
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Message 58 of 76 (180154)
01-24-2005 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Zachariah
01-24-2005 3:02 AM


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. Lets not forget to mention for fairness sake that there are thousands of christians today being killed for their views. The muslim world isn't to kind to them.
Really? Its for their religious views, rather than as aiders and abettors of colonialism of imperialism, say? Huh.
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contracycle
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Message 60 of 76 (180704)
01-26-2005 4:29 AM
Reply to: Message 59 by Zachariah
01-25-2005 10:56 PM


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According to what I have heard. Yes.
What you have heard is hate-filled propaganda made to justify a war.
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The extremist take it further and chop off the heads of christians and non believers.
While America bombs whole cities of Muslims and anyone who doesn't behave the way America wants - which usually means offering up the entire economy to be looted by American business.
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We imperialists that help out every country any time a tradgedy occurs.
Thats completely fictitious - America is a very poor contributor tyo global aid, and is the prime mover behind the maintance of cruel loan repayment regimes. Furthermore, America routinely intervenes to suppress democracy.
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How often do you see anyone give "majority chrisitan" America a helping hand when 911 or huricaines or earthquakes happen.
All the time - such as the sympathy demonstrations after 9/11 that occurred in multiple Islamic cities. As for hurricanes et al, America generally refuses such aid, which is not unreasonable given it is the richest country on the planet.
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If you are not willing to take you anti America bias out of your thinking then we have nothing else to discuss.
Adressing the real world is a requirem,tn for productive discussion. I am not obliged in any sense to conform to your delusional view of the American agressor state.

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contracycle
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Message 62 of 76 (180748)
01-26-2005 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Zachariah
01-26-2005 5:59 AM


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Why don't you just sit down and type out a pretty little list of allllllll the countries around the world that have given as much as the USA in regards to aid for Tsunami victims.
Sure.
US: $350 million
Australia: $810 million
Germany: $674 million
Japan: $500 million
The other day the UK government said its expecting to pledge as much as 1 billio, and either way has promised to match UK public donations, which reached $300 million.
Good enough for you? As we can see, the US is the least contributive of major states. And this only after an outcry was raised against America's shameful initial offer of ameasly $35 million.
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You need to stop listening to liberal talking points and read instead.
It is precisely becuase I read that I am ware that the US is a semi-Fascist aggressor state that conqired Iraq and subjugated its people so that it could steal their oil.
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Are you telling me that it is better to have Saddam in power?
No, but guaranteeing the soverignty of states is more important. Because the precedent that the US has set is that might make right; the rule of international law has been destroyed.
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Why don't research how many loans to nations like Japan and others that we have completely desolved and forgiven.
Sure. Back in the day. But that is absolutely no excuse whatseoever for compelling states suffering now to pay back forced loans RATHER THAN keep their own populations alive. Or compel them to sell of their publicly owne assets. Or place limits on how much their governments can spend on health care.
The United states is a predator nation that lives off the blood of the world.

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contracycle
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Message 67 of 76 (181285)
01-28-2005 5:45 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by Zachariah
01-27-2005 6:05 PM


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Money isn't everything. We have people over their rebuilding getting water purified and alot of other neccesary things that don't come out in the $.
Sure./ and so do many, many, NGO's. And of course the Indoneseian army ids half a million strong, which is why they are now seeking assurances that the US will leave, and soon, as they fear this is turning into an excuse for an American military presence in Indonesia.
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Show me some proof. You idiots keep shooting off at the mouth about us going in for the oil, why don't you show me the proof.
Well it seems quite reasonable given that all excuses fgiven for the war were lies, and that the US secured the oil fields as a priority and did not go looking for WMD as a priority. This was a war for oil.
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f it were true the liberal media would have it all over the news
What "liberal media"? You have a compliant patriotic media that never questions the governments; thats why all the bullshit about WMD was never checked. The "liberal media" is a fantasy.
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SO far the only ones after the oil that is proven is the UN, Germany, France and I think not sure Russia.
What a complete nonsense; if that was the case why did they oppose the war? Live in the real world, kid.
By the way, you are doing an excellent job of showing how much christians depend on prejudice; every one of your claims arises from uncrtitical patriotism for you evil agressor state and unrelenting hostility to anyone else and the goodness of anyone else. Christianity is thus revealed as a religion of hate.
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contracycle
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Message 71 of 76 (182829)
02-03-2005 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Zachariah
02-02-2005 12:21 AM


Re: so sorry....
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I hope you enjoy. And yes, before anyone says anything there were some Americans and some American companies that profitted from it as well. Just not the United States.
oh I see
But if a French company profits, the indeed it is "France" that benefits, right?

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