Did Adam and eve really have a choice?

Yes, He did choose this reality, but are you complaining about it really? People who don't like it have the option of being saved from it. But most people wouldn't have it any other way, really have no desire to be innocent as Adam and Eve were.

All I meant about people preferring things as they are is that they are arguing with an abstract theological notion about God, having no idea really what they are talking about, and it is these abstractions that make them bitter about the painful realities of life. Otherwise they wouldn't be complaining as they do.This is probably the hazard of talking theology at this level. A Christian starts out trying to show the human need for a Savior and soon encounters all these objections to God's allowing sin at all instead of gratitude that a way out is offered. It's a strange conversation. I think I will try to avoid it in future.This message has been edited by Faith, 09-30-2005 03:01 PM