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Author Topic:   6 questions about an "omni" God
Primordial Egg
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Message 16 of 21 (48888)
08-06-2003 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Asgara
05-16-2003 2:22 AM


Re: 6
quote:
Some definitions of free will include:
The power of making free choices that are unconstrained by external circumstances or by an agency such as fate or divine will.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company
A will free from improper coercion or restraint
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc

I can't say I properly understand what free will is, although I almost certainly used to think that I did. The trouble with these defintions is that they both include the words "free" and "will" in them and those are the words that I have the problem with.
My current thinking is that free will:
- can only be a sujective property experienced by the individual concerned
- should not be defined in relation to some future time (I would once have described free will as "the ability to have chosen differently". I reject this now, as this would never be able to tell you whether you had free will NOW, but only tell you whether you had had free will after the event. Maybe.)
That said, with this proto-definition in mind, I can't see a problem with omniscience and free will co-existing. The problem only occurs when you try to make free will an absolute external referent, which I don't particularly hold with.
Like I say though, its a developing view rather than one thats fully formed.
PE

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Primordial Egg
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Message 18 of 21 (48938)
08-06-2003 12:56 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Quetzal
08-06-2003 9:51 AM


Re: 6
I think thats what I was getting at. Unless 'free will' is something you can look at from some higher dimensional place and then say "ah! he had free will there" or "she didn't have any free will there", then the words "free will" become some abstract idealised philosophical notion that isn't very well explained rather than the common usage "free will" which we all know and love (but still can't explain).
I'm very big on words having a practical meaning.
PE

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