Tell Him Jesus Sent You

And yet the ones who think it is important often have the most lame-brained "reasons" for their choice. We see it here all the time: somebody who "knows" that the Judeo-Christian god is the right choice but displays the most abject ignorance of any other viewpoint. Some fundies are particularly militant in their ignorance of Islam, for example.What if you make your decision for Yahweh and then find yourself standing before a God who's wearing a turban and saying, "You can call me Al"?

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I guess I would say... err...Shalmom, Al?

HuH?????????An intelligence superior to someone who has surrendered their brain is not really saying all that much. Well if God exists and if we are created, looks like God gave us a brain. If not to use, exactly what is the purpose of the most expensive organ?How ever so far the only definition you have given for "accepting God" seems to be becoming brain dead.I'm not sure that is what you really mean.People throw stuff like "accepting God" around constantly as though that has any meaning. Wouldn't be a good idea though to pause and try to figure out just what it does mean?We have no way of ever knowing that God is speaking to us. We may well believe that is the cause, but if we are honest, we must admit that it is possible we are wrong.You said: The question is, should someone stop at that point?Should we say "Okay, I can't know everything and so I won't try to know everything"?Why would GOD want us to admit we cannot know everything?Wouldn't GOD rather we said "I don't know everything yet!"

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

How were you enlightened?

I was saved. One day it just hit me like an epiphany. I cant explain it...but I also believe that God gave me a brain...so i question much of the evangelical reality that I used to embrace. While I could say that I am one of the peculiar people, I don't see myself as exclusive as I used to.

We're digressing a bit, but I just have to say that this is almost exactly what happened to me, only with one major difference.After my epiphany, I ended up believing that my brain gave me God.

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"Der Mensch kann was er will; er kann aber nicht wollen was er will." (Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills.) - Arthur Schopenhauer

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"If there are any gods whose chief concern is man, they can't be very important gods." - Arthur C. Clarke

I guess my point is, ( and a constant question) is that I struggle with the same thought. Did I find God, or did God find me?If it is an exclusive thought that God found me, and I or anything else in this life had nothing to do with it, then I do not need to preach the gospel, becayse regardless of what I do, God already has His "chosen people" (BTW, I hate that expression).But on the other hand, the only way you even know anything about God, was from your surroundings. Myself included. But even knowing about God, I did not know, or understand what the Holy Spirit is.People say that in a room full of people, who are Spirit filled, you too can feel it. But there are some who don't feel a thing (I was one of them).I guess I am confusing too many thoughts here, and I don't have the time to write them out today, but do you think we should preach the gospel? (not asking how). Or is it a waste of time? Do we even need the bible? Because the bible seems to be a big point of confusion. Not that the bible itself is confusing, but the people interpreting it are confused about it.

Psych!What if your wrong?
Do you still get the same feeling from time to time?

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When the cobalt bombs came to my door to do their exploding, the pitch opened with a question. 'If you died and met God today, and God asked you why he should let you into heaven, what would you say?'

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Well?What did you reply?

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I suppose so, if one is honest. Some folks will feel more comfortable saying "I don't know..." forever, however....and I suppose that God (IF God exists) would surely understand the honesty of reservation.

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"Comfortable."I'm not sure that that is the right word to describe the agnostic's feelings.There is really very little comfort to be derived from not having enough information to make a determination.

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The counter accusation touted by the infamous Cult Of Ignorance™ is that humans, being unwilling and incapable of accepting God by nature...will continue not to accept God if left alone.

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On the contrary, all of humanity is extremely willing and capable, by nature, of accepting the supernatural.

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'If you died and met God today, and God asked you why he should let you into heaven, what would you say?'

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Message 17 is the best I can remember. Today I would likely say this:

'Because we'd enjoy each other's company and you know I'd appreciate it.'

What would you say?___
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ArcherAll species are transitional.

Yes, as long as we feel in control in that we can define it, measure it, and define it. When the idea of a God who is neither able to be controlled, defined, measured or manipulated comes up, however, many people do not feel comfortable with such an idea. The idea that we owe allegiance or at least respect to such a Being rubs many people the wrong way.

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Choosing the right Deity could be viewed as important by some and irrelevant by others, since the proper Deity would be in control by default...regardless of our decisions to accept or reject the concept.

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Of course, that's only true if the diety is the type that "controls" things.The correct god might be the sort that set everything in motion and then let it fly with no further influence.

Before Copernicus, everyone thought that the cosmos spun around us. Before Christ, we as humans usually view ourselves as the center of attention. Its hard to accept that the best laid plans of mice and men are dependent upon an active Deity. (I'm not a Deist)

I'd say, "God, you should let me into heaven because I've always hated Anne Geddes' work, which shows that I deserve a reward for my good taste."