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Itachi Uchiha Member (Idle past 5615 days) Posts: 272 From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco Joined: |
"Please pardon me for being like this, but I have this nasty tendancy to believe in things because the evidence supports them, not because I'd like for them to be true."
thats why i believe in God. my life is proof of it. "Here's a question for you - please humor me on it. How old are you?" not old enough as you granpa but old enough to accept that the world was created by a god who will one day destroy it and judge all of us according to his law.
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Rei Member (Idle past 7013 days) Posts: 1546 From: Iowa City, IA Joined: |
quote:quote: Could you please put that in a base-10 number?
quote:quote: Ah. So, what evidence do you think favors the interference of a deity in this world, as opposed to the fundamental, repeatable laws of quantum physics, relativity, etc? Or do you believe in the God of the Gaps (who would currently be hiding in wave functions)? Or do you believe in a personal God, but a sneaky one - one who interferes with reality, but never when there's an experiment going on that would show such interference? ------------------"Illuminant light, illuminate me."
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Loudmouth Inactive Member |
thats why i believe in God. my life is proof of it. So you don't need faith, you know God exists? I thought you had to believe in God through Faith, and not through proof.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: So what? There's no indication in the text that they were immortal before they ate it.
quote: Care to elaborate? Because as it stands, it's circular logic. What prevents my definition of sin as being valid is a different definition of sin?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: 1) Yep. Read up a little. The theory of evolution makes plenty of linear sense all on its own. 2) Feel free to find all the errors you want in Origin of the Species. In fact, I encourage it. Always good to route out errors.
quote: Why not? We have the same knowledge of good and evil that he does. How can one entity have a leg up in decision-making over another when the two are drawing on the same level of knowledge?
quote: So... basically, God's the toughest, and might makes right? What a sick idea.
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
jazzlover_PR writes:
quote: BZZZZT! Pascal's Wager. I'm so sorry, jazzlover_PR. Johnny, tell him what parting gifts he has! Well, Bob, jazzlover_PR has won himself a lifetime of anguish in someone else's hell! Yes, that's right. After spending all of his life fighting against Satan and worshipping the Christian god, jazzlover_PR gets a reward of going straight to Hades for his hubris. He'll be sentenced to solve a series of puzzles for which the instructions can be read in many ways. Every attempt to glean more information will be met with "Since it would just be a waste of my time to tell you, I won't." Of course, every proposed solution will conflict with something in the contradictory instructions. This being for his continued insistence that those around him are unworthy of explanations. But, he won't get hungry because he'll have an afterlife-time supply of Rice-a-Roni, the San Francisco Treat. You didn't really think that the god that truly exists is the Christian one, did you? ------------------Rrhain WWJD? JWRTFM!
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5908 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
jazzlover_PR
What an absolutely delightful demonstration of how to avoid thinking for yourself.It must be very gratifying for your ego to babble on about things you won't even stand behind when pressed for explanations of your viewpoint.My congratulations on your esteemed dodging of the issues. ------------------"Nature uses only the longest threads to weave her patterns, so that each small piece of her fabric reveals the organization of the entire tapestry."
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Zealot Inactive Member |
So what? There's no indication in the text that they were immortal before they ate it.
They were allowed to eat of any tree, including the Tree of Life before the fall. They were not allowed to eat of the Tree of life after the fall. They were immortal.
Care to elaborate? Because as it stands, it's circular logic. What prevents my definition of sin as being valid is a different definition of sin?
Your judgements are affected by sin, God's are not.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5908 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
jazzlover_PR
"And yet, science proves you wrong. Stuff is always coming out of empty space, at every point, at every moment. Something from nothing happens all the time at the quantum level. And do you know what happens to the "stuff" coming out of the emptiness of space?Where does it go?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: Quote the verse.
quote: Still circular logic. What's at issue is the definition of sin.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5908 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
Zealot
They were allowed to eat of any tree, including the Tree of Life before the fall. They were not allowed to eat of the Tree of life after the fall. They were immortal. Excuse me but how do you explain the logical error here? You state that they were immortal even though there is no verse within the bible to back this up. Now in the same paragraph you state that they were not allowed to eat of the tree of life after the fall.If they are immortal then why deny them the tree. You cannot state that they had already eaten of the tree before the fall otherwise you contradict this passage.
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: You have posted yourself into a quandry here old chap.Please explain yourself.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5908 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
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Itachi Uchiha Member (Idle past 5615 days) Posts: 272 From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco Joined: |
"Could you please put that in a base-10 number?"
Sure. 20 "Ah. So, what evidence do you think favors the interference of a deity in this world, as opposed to the fundamental, repeatable laws of quantum physics, relativity, etc? Or do you believe in the God of the Gaps (who would currently be hiding in wave functions)? Or do you believe in a personal God, but a sneaky one - one who interferes with reality, but never when there's an experiment going on that would show such interference?" I'm not to familiar with the theory of quantum physics nor relativity so i cant debate efectively in that area but ill educate myself about it and come back here sometime to debate about it. The thing is that god is real .like i saud before my life is proof of it. Why dont you give it a try someday? it worked for me.
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Itachi Uchiha Member (Idle past 5615 days) Posts: 272 From: mayaguez, Puerto RIco Joined: |
"So you don't need faith, you know God exists? I thought you had to believe in God through Faith, and not through proof. " by loudmouth.
The things God has done in my life is the prooof of his existence to me. Faith comes in when you have something you want very badly and it seems imposible to have it. God says in his word ask me and believe with your whole heart it can be done without any doubt in your heart and it shall be done. Thats faith and through faith we get the proof we need.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: God is some sort of holy concierge? Hm... this idea intrigues me. Let's say I really, really want to have a threesome with Angelina Jolie and the girl who plays Chloe on Smallville, but it seems impossible to have it...
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