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Briterican
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Message 5 of 42 (468462)
05-29-2008 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Stile
05-18-2008 8:38 PM


Re: Only one way about it
Perhaps because this was meant to be a private letter, Einstein didn't apply the same level of editorial jurisprudence that he would to a public statement.
If Einstein were to call another physicist's theories "childish", or if he referred to something in the political arena as "childish", this would not have raised any eyebrows, as it is perfectly acceptable to hold strong opinions on these matters.
Unfortunately, religion seems to hold some sort of special ground, and when a notable person makes comments at either end of the spectrum (for or against), it causes an uproar.
And by the way, this is my first attempt at joining in what appears to be a very active forum. I look forward to a lot of reading and catching up.

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Briterican
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Message 9 of 42 (468491)
05-29-2008 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by randman
05-29-2008 5:46 PM


Einstein admired Spinoza
Thanks Perdition for the welcome to the board...
Excerpt from Spinoza and Einstein
When questioned about God and religion on behalf of an aged Talmudic scholar, Einstein replied:
"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropomorphic concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near to those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order and harmony which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem ” the most important of all human problems."
I never stated I believed Einstein was an athiest, but the above quote clearly shows that he described his views as "near to those of Spinoza" rather than completely consistent with them.
In another interesting read at Einstein the agnostic
I found this quote attributed to Einstein...
"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.... I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our being."
You say "Einstein did believe in God, just not a personal God or a traditional one, but claiming he was merely talking of the laws of the universe is unfounded." I cannot completely disagree with this statement, but I don't see any evidence that Einstein's belief's extended much further than an admiration for "the logical simplicity of the order and harmony which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly", which is essentially a metaphor for the laws of the universe.
Edited by Briterican, : No reason given.

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