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Author Topic:   Get Over Your Fear of Atheism
purpledawn
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Message 15 of 169 (392683)
04-01-2007 7:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by crashfrog
04-01-2007 1:57 PM


Bet You Can't
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I envision this as a thread where what it means to live as an atheist can be explored, and what, if anything, is lost or gained when the choice is made to abandon self-deception and embrace atheism. I feel that gaining a better understanding of what's real is worth it, and I don't recall losing anything in the choice that hadn't slipped away from me long before.
I bet you can't keep this thread on atheism.
For some reason threads about atheism end up as discussions about religion.
You've already got two Christians posting why they won't become atheists.
I would really like to see a thread on atheism actually discuss atheism.
Look at the benefits and problems if there are any.
What does it mean to live as an atheist?
Already this thread sounds like a support group for Christians in spiritual crisis.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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purpledawn
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Message 61 of 169 (393093)
04-03-2007 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by RickJB
04-03-2007 3:24 AM


Social Consequences
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In light of this it seems to me that social consequences provide a much firmer moral base than the tenets of any given faith.....
You would think so since those consequences are in realtime and not postponed to some later unknown date.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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purpledawn
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Message 89 of 169 (394027)
04-09-2007 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by Doddy
04-09-2007 6:43 AM


Not About Atheism
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Basically, it is against what the Bible teaches to claim that atheists can be moral. This certainly contributes to the 'fear of atheism' that many Christians seem to me to have.
That's why it is better to understand the reality of the Bible. Original meanings tend to get clouded or lost over time.
Just as the songs we have today express our fears, hopes, dreams, etc.; so did the psalms (songs). IMO, the author of this song was referring to their enemies (more than likely the leaders), not atheists.
Didn't most of the nations that attacked David's kingdom have gods of their own? If they did, then they weren't atheists. Otherwise all Christians would be atheists if they don't believe in another culture's god.
Erroneous teaching can kindle the fear.

"Peshat is what I say and derash is what you say." --Nehama Leibowitz

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