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Larni

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Message 38 of 169 (392796)
04-02-2007 11:36 AM

Reply to: Message 27 by Stile
04-01-2007 8:02 PM

Re: The Internet is for ...

Stile writes:

Heh. I don't think morality is at all "natural". I think it's learnt. That is, when each of us were born (neglecting any brain abnormalities) we had the exact same potential to be the most moral people in history.

Bang on with that, mate. Of course if we are told over and over that we are bad (sinners) we will believe we are bad and require some form of 'anti badness innoculation'.

*cough*religion*cough*

I stopped believing in the (frankly outlandish) tennents of a xian god when I realised there was no need for one.

Edited by Larni, : Bit of this, bit of that..

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Larni

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Message 39 of 169 (392800)
04-02-2007 11:46 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by crashfrog
04-01-2007 1:57 PM

Crashfrog writes:

I envision this as a thread where what it means to live as an atheist can be explored, and what, if anything, is lost or gained when the choice is made to abandon self-deception and embrace atheism.

I guess it means that you don't have stablilisers on your thinking box.

That may sound a bit harsh, but imagine how you would react to someone who honesty believed in Father Christmas?

But what did it for me was that a god just seemed supurfluous as I got to understand how realilty works.

Just like when I figured out where the presents came from.

Figuring things out seems to be the key, here. Not figuring things out seems the province of believing in gods 'n stuff.

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Larni

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Message 40 of 169 (392804)
04-02-2007 11:53 AM

Reply to: Message 31 by GDR
04-01-2007 9:14 PM

Re: Science and Faith in Harmony

GDR writes:

It doesn't tell us anything about the supernatural or spiritual world.

What supernatural or spiritual world is that, then?

GDR writes:

In my view truth can be found with the scientific method and in the Christian faith.

Only if you add the (as yet undetectable, unidentified) supernatural or spiritual world. When you stop doing this one can let go of ones need for gods 'n stuff.

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Larni

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Message 54 of 169 (392999)
04-03-2007 3:41 AM

Reply to: Message 41 by GDR
04-02-2007 1:34 PM

Re: Science and Faith in Harmony

GDR writes:

The one you live in.

What Crash said.

GDR writes:

Neither of us can prove our beliefs, and obviously people can get by believing whatever they want.

So how is xianity different from any other religion?

You are quite happy to be an atheist about the myriad other religions out there.

Can you prove I can't fly when no one is around to see? No of course you can't. The logic you use here is flawed.

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