Who & what are the demons ?

I had to share this video. Though a bit long, it was at worst a great acting job and at best an observation of a person who at least thinks and believes that they are possessed.Of course, why would any respectable demon allow themselves to be captured on film, thus alerting the world to their reality? Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

for those skeptics among you,m watch the video at about the 40 minute mark and you will see that this man is quite sane and was not acting...though I suppose a critic may suggest that he only THOUGHT he was possessed!

The question also is is it possible that something is real regardless of our beliefs or rational logic.

Agreed, but I also think that those who see no evidence allow the lack of evidence to color their conclusion that such an entity or phenomena cant exist.Could it be that people who refuse to believe in God are so adamant on reliance of their own wisdom and understanding that they have, in effect, become a god unto themselves?(not suggesting demons, but.... )Edited by Phat, : title

True, and I dont think that its necessarily helpful to believe in demons. Its like believing that evil is a force outside of us that we are powerless to correct. I prefer believing, however, that God is a force greater than myself in which I can rely when I myself am at the limits of my own efforts.

Yes I will admit that. I am of the belief, however, that it is a mistake to place our own wisdom and understanding at the top of our choices. I believe that people who reject the possibility of God have closed a door that they may someday need to access.

I suppose that you and I have had different experiences in life. I have experienced direct evidence of something unexplainable...once a man who was being prayed over...in a living room...had several different voices at once come out of him...(no, there was no hidden recorder) and I clearly and directly heard this. At that same time, my hair was standing on end and I knew that the experience was unusual.Thus, for me, IPUs and fairies and goblins remain as storybook fantasies, but God and/or the supernatural realm seem more real to me. Granted, I cant prove anything concrete about what I have experienced, and I will admit to drawing conclusions based on bias.I will admit that I am predisposed to thinking that this stuff is probably true, largely based on opinions from people whom I know and trust that confirm such possibilities.

It is too simplistic to simply attribute every good event or blessing in life to a (or the ) Diety and to blame every bad misfortune on a demon. A wise man chooses what, if anything to believe in based on his worldview, his experiences, and his bias and predispositions to a lesser degree.When I had my otherworldly experience, I remember being awestruck and thinking to myself "Oh My God! Does this now mean that that entire book is actually real? I mean... real???? At that moment I was quite convinced that what I was experiencing was real enough, but in all honesty I had no idea whether the voices came from demons or from aliens or from a still unexplained and thus unnamed phenomenon. I was already involved in prayer with others, various christian rituals and thus my framework of definition was from the perspective of what I had been taught.Personally, I wont simply believe in demons if for no other reason than to deny them the notoriety that they may well seek. All I know is that I experienced something that day that emerged from a living human being and was unlikely to have been caused by that person or any other collusion of human trickery. Assuming, thus, that what I experienced also was alive...but unsure what exactly it was.

Whether or not demons in fact exist, belief in them is not productive nor conducive to a rational approach to life. In my opinion, a demon can not influence a human to do anything that that human had not previously decided to do anyway. Demons can make the mental disease worse than it otherwise would have been, much as an infection can make a cold far worse than it otherwise would be if allowed to run its course unhindered. As to whether people hold false beliefs, I can say, if i read your question correctly, that its best not to believe in demons whether they in fact exist or not.

No, you have the power to deify your own intellect and follow your own piper...wherever he may end up leading you.

In my case, there is no logical explanation for the multiple voice reply that we heard.

Although I cannot rule out trickery 100%, I will say that based on my understanding of my three friends present, their behavior and corroboration of the events, and the sincerity of their testimonies, I highly doubt that they tricked me. Possible, but unlikely.Hallucination? It would have had to have been a shared hallucination, also highly unlikely.Lying? I can state that I myself am not lying...to the best of my knowledge. I cannot vouch for anyone else. (Though again, I judge them as honest to the best of their capability.)

No. I dont feel that a belief can be wrong. Misguided, perhaps. Illogical? Most certainly. Psychotic? Occasionally. Wrong? Definitely not. In my world view, absence of evidence must never be linked with evidence of absence. Science and proof are not the only tools in the satchel.

Demons can't be demonstrated to be wrong any more than they can be demonstrated to exist. When will you people understand that absence of evidence never proves evidence of absence.