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Author Topic:   Free will vs Omniscience
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Message 442 of 1406 (784217)
05-14-2016 12:36 PM
Reply to: Message 440 by kbertsche
05-14-2016 12:07 PM

Re: Definition of free will
kbertsche writes:

Second, there is a huge difference. In a directed, predetermined world with no free will, we would be automatons, with no input or choice in what happens. In what I suggested, we would have free will and would be able to affect the course of events. Whether or not someone knows ahead-of-time what we will decide has no affect on our ability to choose or cause.

Doesn't truly knowing beforehand what we will do but still calling it free will change the definition of free will to something impossible in our universe, since truly knowing anything beforehand would rule out quantum uncertainty?

Our knowledge *is* imperfect, so quantum uncertainty may reflect yet unknown but deterministic laws of nature, but should philosophical arguments we make today discount current science?


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