Free will vs Omniscience

Many of the God characters in the Bible do not have foreknowledge beginning with the God in Genesis 1 and right on through most of the Old Testament. Notice the god is looking at what she created and only then sees that it was good. Note this god makes all the animals and then brings them to Adam to try out. A God that had foreknowledge would have known the while the sheep were okay they just wouldn't really do. Adam and Baaa just sounds wrong.As you should know by now I can keep up bringing Biblical examples for as long as you like. Stop and think Phat. The evil God is evil for CREATING the person knowing that the person will be condemned. Judging after the fact based on the evidence is entirely different.

Good and bad are simply human concepts and constantly mutable. But religions, particularly the Judaic trio have always created a god that fit their individual needs at that particular moment and within that particular era and mythos. Good and bad exist only within the context of that instant. What was bad might be good when viewed from some other moment and will always change and evolve to meet the needs and desires of every individual.This should be patently obvious to anyone actually reading any of the so called scripture of any of the trio.Free will vs Omniscience though is often comforting masturbation.Edited by jar, : applin spallin

Yet you provide neither evidence OR any reasoned argument to support your assertion or to respond to the points I raised in the post to which you are replying.

Phat, you still refuse to even consider what you post and so post stuff that is simply silly. The reason the god you and the Apologists market and worship is so evil and despicable and vile and unworthy of anything but scorn is not what the individuals do or don't do, it is what you say your god did.Is the god you worship and market the creator of all that is, seen and unseen?Does your god have foreknowledge?Stop dancing and playing the Apologist palm the pea con.Is the god you worship and market the creator of all that is, seen and unseen?Does your god have foreknowledge?Edited by jar, : deplorable ----> despicable just to keep the Word Nazi happy.

So once again you simply tap dance, palm the pea, try to con the rubes.Is the god you worship and market the creator of all that is, seen and unseen?Does your god have foreknowledge?

What is the topic and what have you argued in this topic?In Message 1062 did you say Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

You still don't seem to understand the issue is not with human behavior but rather the God character's behavior.If the god is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen, and if that god has foreknowledge and if ANYONE is damned to hell then that god is vile, evil, despicable and unworthy of any worship or respect.You simply cannot have it any other way.The issue is that neither you or any Apologist has ever accepted the reality of the god you and they market.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

Yawn.Stop looking for silly stupid stuff.None of the silly stuff you posted is anything but more palm the pea.It really is simple.If the god is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen, and if that god has foreknowledge and if ANYONE is damned to hell then that god is vile, evil, despicable and unworthy of any worship or respect.You simply cannot have it any other way.The issue is that neither you or any Apologist has ever accepted the reality of the god you and they market.Nothing matters in this issue but what god does.

And you too simply show how utterly clueless you are. Your post has absolutely nothing to do with anything I have posted.

And so once again instead of addressing the issue raised you once again like all the Apologist simple refuse to even consider the crap you market.Again Phat, what is the topic?It really is simple.If the god is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen, and if that god has foreknowledge and if ANYONE is damned to hell then that god is vile, evil, despicable and unworthy of any worship or respect.You simply cannot have it any other way.The issue is that neither you or any Apologist has ever accepted the reality of the god you and they market.Nothing matters in this issue but what god does.In Message 1062 did you say If you made that statement then you were claiming that god DID have foreknowledge and that some people were treated as Goats.Or of course like all the carny huckster you can once again simply refuse to address the issue I presented.

And so once again instead of addressing the issue raised you once again like all the Apologist simple refuse to even consider the crap you market.Again Phat, what is the topic?It really is simple.If the god is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen, and if that god has foreknowledge and if ANYONE is damned to hell then that god is vile, evil, despicable and unworthy of any worship or respect.You simply cannot have it any other way.The issue is that neither you or any Apologist has ever accepted the reality of the god you and they market.Nothing matters in this issue but what god does.In Message 1062 did you say If you made that statement then you were claiming that god DID have foreknowledge and that some people were treated as Goats.Or of course like all the carny huckster you can once again simply refuse to address the issue I presented.

True. I don't see any connection between the stuff you post and either the points I raise or the topic of the thread. Yup, nothing there to see. You are correct.

And so once again all you offer is a pointless bumper sticker. Classic Christian Cult of Ignorance behavior.

Did we make the decision to create ourselves?

Who decided to create us?