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ramoss
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Message 70 of 128 (332930)
07-18-2006 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Hyroglyphx
07-18-2006 8:11 AM


Re: Misconceptions
You are aware that the majority of Jews do not believe that the Messiah is Jesus, right? That's kind of why their ancestors handed Him over to be crucified in the first place. Furthermore, its impossible for mean, ole Israel to kill all the Muslims without killing themselves, being that they are nestled in between thousands, upon thousands of Muslim occupied land.
By definition , Jews do not think that Jesus is the Messiah. If they think Jesus is the Messiah, they are, by definition, Christians, not jews.

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ramoss
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Message 82 of 128 (333061)
07-18-2006 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 77 by Hyroglyphx
07-18-2006 5:51 PM


Re: Misconceptions
I did. And I stand by my statement.
Not only that, but the story about Jews handle someone over to the Romans to be cruxified I think is just anti-semetic propaganda from early christians.
Edited by ramoss, : No reason given.

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ramoss
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Message 92 of 128 (333102)
07-18-2006 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Hyroglyphx
07-18-2006 8:46 PM


Re: Misconceptions
Oh Yes,.
The Babylonian Talmud was written between 200 and 600 C.E. If they were attempting to respond to the Jesus cruxifition story, they definately changed it enough not to match the story in the New Testament. That passage would is probably written in the mid 3rd century, and is undoubable a reaction against the accustations in the New Testament.
I would be more impressed if it was anywhere near the first century. A 200 years later rewrite, as a response to christainty is not really a good source.

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Message 95 of 128 (333119)
07-18-2006 9:51 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by nator
07-18-2006 9:42 PM


Re: Bleak
I remember coming across someone I used to work with for a while in a mall, with his new wife,and baby. She had another one from a previous marriage.
Every other sentance was ended by 'Bless the lord'. Somehow the converstation came about to having another child.. and he said 'The lord will bring them when they come'. This woman, who was just basically saying 'bless the lord' every time her husband say 'bless the lord', and appeared pretty meek and mild until then suddenly piped up 'The wife has something to say about that too you know'.

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ramoss
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Message 107 of 128 (333379)
07-19-2006 3:08 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Hyroglyphx
07-19-2006 12:04 PM


Re: Misconceptions
Except of course, you should read what 'hanging' means as a forum of execution in the Talmud. It is not cruxificition at all. What happens is that someone is executed by strangulation, andthen the body is displayed for the rest of the day.
Cruxifiction is not one of the 4 legal methods of execution in the Talmud.

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