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Author Topic:   Empirical Evidence for Evolution
Quetzal
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Message 55 of 60 (1978)
01-12-2002 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Fred Williams
01-10-2002 12:11 PM


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Originally posted by Fred Williams
Things that would put creation theory at risk:
* Clear cut lineages and clear cut ancestor-descendant relationships in the fossil record
* Large-scale transposition
* Lararckian inheritance
* Concrete examples of increases in complex information in rapid reproductive cycle organisms such as bacteria & fruitflies.
1. Clear cut lineages. I'm pretty sure these already exist. Could you give an example of evidence that would indicate this? I mean define what would constitute "clear cut".
2. Large-scale transposition (defined by Fred Williams in message 51 as "large-scale transposition of genetic material between species via lateral gene transfer"): The only large scale lateral gene transfer is during bacterial sex, which I assume you reject as an example. However, this is an impervious claim: the only possible falsification would be large-scale saltation (between higher taxa). Large scale saltation has been discredited for 100+ years - by ToE.
3. Lamarckian inheritance. Another impervious claim: as in saltation, Lamarckian inheritance has also been refuted for 100+ years - again by ToE.
4. Increases in information. Others are addressing this issue (notably SLP). Any new genetic material added to bacterial genomes comes from bacterial gene swapping - all receptor bacteria are considered to have increased their genetic code after sex. You need to read up on some microbiology. There's about 20 years worth of research that you've apparently missed.
BTW: Where did you get those four "falsifications"? Two are spurious because they can't exist, one is undefined, and one is flat out already falsified. You need to get some new sources.
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[This message has been edited by Quetzal, 01-12-2002]

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