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Legend
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Message 50 of 204 (251749)
10-14-2005 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Silent H
10-12-2005 6:30 PM


Re: knowing how to do the right thing is often much harder
holmes writes:
It seems inconsistent with the fact that he clearly dumped the Mosaic Laws.....
He didn't dump the Mosaic Law, he just wanted to free it from wrong interpretation
"Do as they [Pharisees] say, just don't do as they do" (Matthew 23:2-3 )
"I'm not here to destroy the law, I'm here to fulfill it"(Matthew 5:17-18)

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
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Message 100 of 204 (252661)
10-18-2005 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by iano
10-17-2005 4:44 PM


There's only one Reality
iano writes:
So which is the warped reality: ours or the bibles. And how does one figure this?
Reality is reality. The sum of your sensory inputs is YOUR reality.
If YOUR reality matches that of the rest of the world then it becomes OUR reality
A book is not reality. It just projects an image.
If that image doesn't match OUR reality, then the book is warped.

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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Legend
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Message 108 of 204 (252757)
10-18-2005 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by iano
10-18-2005 8:58 AM


Re: There's only one Reality
iano writes:
We are more than the sum of our sensory inputs. Remove them and I still have a reality
so if you can't see, hear, feel, smell or taste you still have a reality ? could you describe what would it consist of ?
iano writes:
5 witnesses to an accident will give 5 different accounts. There is no such thing as OUR reality. Harmony, accordance, disharmony, discordance in varying measures. No OUR. No collective reality
You're talking about temporary perception and interpretation of events, not reality. Witnesses may give different accounts because they had different sensory inputs, at that specific point in time. The witness further away from the scene might have not seen or heard everything that someone closer would have.
If, however, they get the same sensory input from the same sources, constantly, then that is THEIR reality.
So, if you put all the witness at the scene of the accident they would all see the smashed up Ford Fiesta, they would all smell the leaked fuel, they would feel the broken glass under the shoes. That would be their one and only reality.
iano writes:
6,000,000,000 people reading Jars 'map'. Each one as valid as the other cos there is nothing objective to compare any of them to.
So, if Jar's map said "If you jump of a bridge you will find yourself heading towards the ground, not away from it", you think there would be nothing objective to compare this against ?
If it said "count the number of legs on a locust, you'll find they are six" - do you think here would be nothing objective to compare this against ?
Maybe in your reality locusts have four legs and gravity doesn't exist.
In OUR reality however....

"In life, you have to face that some days you'll be the pigeon and some days you'll be the statue."

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