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Faith 
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Message 106 of 116 (312248)
05-15-2006 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by robinrohan
05-15-2006 11:09 PM


Re: However, iano
I didn't say it was dishonorable, merely reminding you that politics was the reason for this site. And that being the case it carries certain attitudes along with it, which I'm saying interfere with a pure desire to get at truth.

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Faith 
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Message 107 of 116 (312251)
05-15-2006 11:16 PM
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05-15-2006 11:13 PM


Re: However, iano
I did say the science was a pretense, but I didn't mean that anybody is consciously pretending, just that that's how things go when a political goal is the agenda.

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robinrohan
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Message 108 of 116 (312256)
05-15-2006 11:21 PM
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05-15-2006 11:13 PM


Re: However, iano
I didn't say it was dishonorable, merely reminding you that politics was the reason for this site.
If it's political, it's dishonorable.
But you understand, this is my extremely humble opinion.

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Faith 
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Message 109 of 116 (312271)
05-15-2006 11:53 PM
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05-15-2006 11:21 PM


Re: However, iano
But you understand, this is my extremely humble opinion.
Oh well, allrighty then.

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robinrohan
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Message 110 of 116 (312273)
05-15-2006 11:57 PM
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05-15-2006 11:53 PM


Re: However, iano
Oh well, allrighty then.
Whatever you do, don't make any definite statements.
Edited by robinrohan, : No reason given.

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iano
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Message 111 of 116 (312354)
05-16-2006 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Faith
05-15-2006 11:16 PM


Re: However, iano
Whatever Percys goal, for a Christian it sure beats having to stand on rainy street corners handing out tracts!

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AdminWounded
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Message 112 of 116 (312355)
05-16-2006 8:51 AM
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05-16-2006 8:41 AM


Severe topic drift
This thread is not the venue for discussing Percy's motivations in setting up this site. Nor is it the place for discussing the political motivations of other members of this board.
If pople wish to discuss these matters the [forum=-14] would seem more appropriate.
TTFN,
AW

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iano
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Message 113 of 116 (312357)
05-16-2006 8:56 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by robinrohan
05-15-2006 10:52 PM


The juice.
One believes it because it has been deduced. One believes because it makes logical sense. The only thing is that you aren't the one deducing it for you. He is.
If you want him to he can. If you really don't want him to he can't.
One can ask him to help along the way - even if they don't believe he exists. He is not so unreasonable as to expect you to believe he exists when you can't.
You don't know him Robin. But the question is:
Do you want to know him?
Or even, do you want to want to know him?

Carpenter from Nazareth seeks joiners

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Faith 
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Message 114 of 116 (312366)
05-16-2006 9:15 AM
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05-16-2006 8:56 AM


Re: The juice.
If you want him to he can. If you really don't want him to he can't.
I know what you're trying to say here, but it's kind of an unfortunate way of putting it, as if anything in us could prevent God from acting. He can change our beliefs and attitudes in a flash. Doesn't require anything from us. One day you just start considering it might be true. Where did THAT come from?

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iano
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Message 115 of 116 (312370)
05-16-2006 9:31 AM
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05-16-2006 9:15 AM


Re: The juice.
Where did THAT come from?
From a lack of rejection of work done in that person by God -although that action of God is not necessarily seen by the person as being the work of God. The speed of movement of doesn't alter that to my mind - a person is being called and is denying/responding to that ongoing call from day 1 (or thereabouts) until they die or the call ceases. A person can reject sufficiently unto damnation in other words.

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veiledvirtue
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Message 116 of 116 (312459)
05-16-2006 1:34 PM


your life is the result of your thoughts and actions
it will clearly show you the choices youve made ..an inescapable/ inevitable chosen fate
misery and unhappiness are disguised well, behind the curtain of sorrow and bad news is a barren soul with everything to lose
Edited by veiledvirtue, : No reason given.
Edited by veiledvirtue, : No reason given.

  
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