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Author Topic:   Rationalising The Irrational - Hardcore Theists Apply Within
Hawkins
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Message 41 of 277 (497384)
02-04-2009 12:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
02-01-2009 7:15 PM


1) everyone has a unique belief system, which may or may not need the so-called 'empirical evidence' ( what's that anyway? ).
2) God may give everyone (Gospel's influence ) a chance to believe in Him. God may do this in accordance to one's unique belief system.
The so-called rationalization developed on a 'more empirical = more rational' is not a good measure of faith.
Moreover, 'empirical evidence' in the far end = an evaluation of probability using your brain. And in the far end, this evaluation is somehow faith-based ( to your surprise? ). It's because scientifically speaking, probability never guarrantees outcomes, you need faith no-matter which side of the coin you are going to pick, even when probability calculated (scientifically ) is in favor of one side.
Now how scientific will be our brain in calculation such a probability? That is, any calculation can be classified as 'scientifically' calculated? If it's not a scientific calculation, what is it then? (faith?)
Another point is, can you stand in the middle of fence without picking an answer? You think you can, but from my speculation, YOU CAN'T!
Actually, the ultimate question is ( you must not miss it ),
Will life go on after physical death?
You can't leave planet earth without the above question answered, either consciously or sub-counsciously.
Now the point is, do you realize that you run out of options but to answer that question?
All Christians/Theist will have that question answered consciously and clearly. How about others, such as atheists?
Edited by Hawkins, : No reason given.

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Hawkins
Member (Idle past 1394 days)
Posts: 150
From: Hong Kong
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Message 42 of 277 (497387)
02-04-2009 1:05 AM


To go abit further and deeper, it will touch the purpose of planet earth, and the topic of Tree of Life which God has hidden long from you.
Here you go: ( Think please )
Tree of Life:
Do you know where will you go after your physical death?
Answer 1: We have a soul

  
Hawkins
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Posts: 150
From: Hong Kong
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Message 171 of 277 (791334)
09-14-2016 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Straggler
02-01-2009 7:15 PM


Wow, what a revived thread. You should now see how ridiculous the OP questions are.
Empirical evidence is only available provided that you can physically go there to gather the evidence. Science is based on experiments and observations which can only be done inside our physical realm that we can reach.
It is thus out of our current capability to explore what lying outside our time-space we are living in. It is however fallacious to draw the conclusion that nothing can exist outside the reach of our science.

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