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onifre
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Message 85 of 277 (497720)
02-05-2009 6:21 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by John 10:10
02-05-2009 5:36 PM


You are NOT smarter than a 5th grader
Hi John,
Let me explain it to you in terms a 5th grader can understand.
Looks like you ended up explaining it as a 5th grader would explain it, rather than so a 5th grader could understand it.
"Belief faith" means...
That you just murdered the english language.
    belief, professedly without proof (i.e. above an acceptable standard of evidence).
You see, John, once you say you have faith you already establish you have a belief. There is no such thing as "belief faith", even a 5th grader would know that. Looks like you are not smarter than a 5th grader.
"Unbelief faith" means...
That you ressurected the english language, only to murder it again.
Do you just choose any set of words and combine it to represent things that only you can understand...?
As per the above definition - (unless you plan on challenging the accepted definition) - if you have faith you have a "belief", you can't have faith in "unbelief", it contradicts* itself.
    opposite of; deny directly and categorically.

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 94 of 277 (497827)
02-06-2009 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by John 10:10
02-06-2009 7:28 AM


Re: You are NOT smarter than a 5th grader
My reply was not to you, and explained "belief faith" and "unbelief faith" as/so a 5th grader could understand.
Are you just repeating what you said originally as if saying it a second time sounds better?
You may have tried to explain it AS/SO a 5th grader could understand but you ended up sounding LIKE a 5th grader explaining it.

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onifre
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Message 109 of 277 (498652)
02-12-2009 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by John 10:10
02-12-2009 2:46 PM


Re: You are NOT smarter than a 5th grader
Category 5 Believer:
Elements of both internal evidence and external evidence are essential components in forming the basis of a belief in God.
I think you meant Category 3.
One may have the latter, but it's the former that makes the journey into the kingdom of God a relationship and not a religion.
This is exactly what Category 3 says, "neither is sufficient".
So you are a Category 3 believer.
- Oni

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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onifre
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Message 114 of 277 (499645)
02-19-2009 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by John 10:10
02-19-2009 3:01 PM


Re: Category 5 Christian
Harry Blamires has written this in his book "The Christian Mind,"
Holy Shit! A quote from another book! Finally we get a broader scope of your opinion.(sarcasm intended)
It's very interesting how unbelievers are so very sure they know what Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ believe
Like you telling us what we should believe? Do you take pride in being a hypocrite?
Straggler set up a categorical example for the processes which one uses to substantiate ones beliefs. You took part in it making yourself subject to having to pick one of the catagories, or you could have chosen not to take part. But, to be the arrogant fuck that you seem to be, you make up your own catagory which is EXACTLY like one of his catagories and then claim it's not. You are either too hard headed to admit you are wrong, or you are just an idiot arguing for the sake of arguing. Either way I think it is best to ignore you, however, I will not.
Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

"I smoke pot. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your mouth."--Bill Hicks
"I never knew there was another option other than to question everything"--Noam Chomsky

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