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Author Topic:   Jared v. Hovind
Brian
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Message 34 of 60 (305863)
04-22-2006 6:24 AM


Nuttier than Nutty McNutt from Nuttsville
I would hazard that there is at least one lie in this quote:
Kent: That is what all these evolutionists do. They think if you don't understand evolution - if you don't believe in evolution - it's because you're dumb. I think it's quite the opposite. My IQ is over 160. I've taught high school science fifteen years. Got a PhD in education. I may not be the smartest man in the world but I'm smart enough to figure out I didn't come from a rock 4.6 billion years ago. And I think most five year olds are smart enough to figure that one out.
There is no way Kent has an IQ of "over 160"
When he says that he "taught high school science" for fifteen years, does he actually mean he taught science in a high school because if he does I'd find that suspect as well.
I don't know about the education system in America, but in Scotland you need a degree in the subject that you hope to teaching plus a teaching cert/diploma. I see that Hovind's 'phd' is in education, so this obviously isn't a science qualification. So, does anyone know if Kent taught IN a high school as opposed to teaching high school level science on a street corner?
On the matter of his Ph.d how ludicrous is this claim of Hovind's?
My dissertation was originally about 100 pages. I continued adding material and it grew to 250 pages. Over the last 10 years I have constantly been adding material. It is now many hundreds of pages and will be put into book form as time permits.
This is just absurd, once you finish writing up your dissertation then that's it finished, you don't add to it!
The comments about the quality of the presentation speaks volumes as well. No page numbers, no contents page, plethora of spelling mistakes, grammatical errors, the thesis has no title, no references or footnotes, an illustration cut out of a science book and stuck into the dissertation, the list goes on.
What kind of university awards this quality of work? I had 5 formatting errors in my dissertation, and I had to correct these and present another two bound copies to the uni before I was allowed to graduate.
If I was Kent, I'd keep quiet about the 'ph.d'
Brian.

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Brian
Member (Idle past 4987 days)
Posts: 4659
From: Scotland
Joined: 10-22-2002


Message 36 of 60 (305869)
04-22-2006 6:47 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by cavediver
04-22-2006 6:30 AM


Re: Nuttier than Nutty McNutt from Nuttsville
Scotland must be a whole lot more strict than England then. 25% of English high-school maths teachers do not have A-level maths, never mind a degree in a maths-related subject! [TES - from a couple of years back] And I don't have a teaching cert...
To teach in Scotland requires you to be a member of the GTC, General Teaching Council, and to do this you need a degree plus an education qualification. You cannot enter a state educational establishment without being a member of the GTC.
Most teachers gain their degree first and then complete a post grad teaching cert at teacher training college.
I was quite lucky in that my first degree was at Stirling where students could study for their teaching qualification at the same time as their degree. It had the added bonus of being a Dip. ed, a slightly higher qualification than the Cert. ed.
I see in the news this week that some English unis may offer honours degrees that only take 2 years instead of 3! Apparently it is an attempt to cut student debt. Incidently, honours degrees take 4 years in Scotland, maybe that's why our education system is the envy of the world? (I should probably change that to 'was' the envy as the arse is falling out of it now).
Brian.

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