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Author Topic:   The C.C.O.I. (Christian Cult Of Ignorance) and Willful Ignorance
Tangle
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Message 399 of 675 (742351)
11-19-2014 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 398 by jar
11-19-2014 8:31 AM


Re: Open Mouth Insert Foot
^^^^ suggest you reach for Occam's handy little tool.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 464 of 675 (742552)
11-21-2014 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 463 by Faith
11-21-2014 3:56 PM


Re: Just read and believe the Bible for a change
Faith writes:

Just read it and believe. That's all there is to say. If you believe the debunkers you're lost.

Yes, that's all true for once. That's also what they tell the suicide bombers


Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 625 of 675 (762590)
07-13-2015 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 624 by Faith
07-13-2015 4:25 PM


Re: Jesus is alive
faith writes:

Growing up in a Christian society means very little about what you end up believing.

That is so obviously wrong it takes my breath away. It's one of the few obvious and provable truisms of these discussions.

Gowing up in a Christian society to Christian parents virtually guarantees that you will not become a Hindu. And vice versa.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 665 of 675 (795419)
12-13-2016 4:35 AM
Reply to: Message 664 by Phat
12-13-2016 4:24 AM


Re: Maps,Territories,and personal decisions
Phat writes:

Sometimes i think I need to pray (and read the Bible) more, and argue online less.

And I think that if you did much less of all three and took up golf or fishing or anything that got you outside and beyond your internal obsessions you'd be a helluva lot happier.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 667 of 675 (796458)
12-30-2016 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 666 by Phat
12-30-2016 9:34 AM


Re: Gone Fishin For Eternal Security
Phat writes:

Tell me though---do you have no problem with simply dying and ceasing to exist?

Well I'd really rather not have it happen, but as dying is still a necessary part of living, I'll have to put up with it. It bothers me more that I wasn't born in 500 years time when dying will probably be optional.

If the answer is no do you feel that you will continue to live vicariously through your offspring?

No, of course not. I'm me, they're them. I'll be dead, dead.

Is that not a different way of defining eternal life---living through the next generation?

No, see above.

All this worrying about the continuance of life after death is why it was necessary to invent gods that could do it. Once you accept that we're just another form of life that is totally disposable, life gets easy. You're not important in the scheme of things - you are only important to the people who's lives you touch.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 669 of 675 (796463)
12-30-2016 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 668 by Phat
12-30-2016 9:57 AM


Re: Gone Fishin For Eternal Security
Phat writes:

in which case i would ask them to go fishing with me. Being alone is no fun.


That's ok too, but a lot of the pleasure of fishing is solitude and countryside.

Tell me this, though. If we are only important to those whose lives we touch, is that itself not spirituality?

I'd say that it's just being human. We're important to the people we love and love us; that's just life. It's overthinking simple things that's getting you into these difficulties.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 675 of 675 (862891)
09-16-2019 3:43 AM
Reply to: Message 671 by Phat
09-15-2019 1:08 PM


Re: An interesting example of women speaking during a service.
Phat writes:

According to you guys, the Bronze Age myths and yet you create a new secular religion! Death is optional? C'mon...it will never happen.

Where's the religion? It's just biology.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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