Upon review, I see that this was indeed not intended to be a debate topic. Closing for now....anyone who feels the need can start a new topic on the matters which they wish to discuss. This includes restarting this topic itself with the same title.
Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
Points should be supported with evidence and reasoned argumentation.
The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.
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