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Author Topic:   All Time Classic Creationist Pwnage (Re: Conservapedia and A. Schlafly vs. R. Lenski)
Granny Magda
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Message 1 of 22 (473166)
06-27-2008 1:09 PM


I thought that this might be of interest to members.
All time classic creationist pwnage – Bad Science
It is a record of an exchange between Richard Lenski, a biologist working on the emergence of new traits in populations of e-coli and Andrew Schlafly, the editor of Conservapedia.
Mr Schlafly starts this off by demanding that Lenski provide him with data to back up his research, despite the fact that the data is already available. It degenerates from there...
Suffice to say that Lenski does a sterling job of making Schlafly look foolish, second only to Schlafly himself.
The site this is on, Bad Science is well worth a look generally and I'm sure that it will appeal to sceptically minded folks. I recommend it.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Added the "(Re: Conservapedia and A. Schlafly vs. R. Lenski)" part to the topic title.

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Granny Magda
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Message 8 of 22 (473317)
06-28-2008 8:29 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Dr Jack
06-27-2008 6:47 PM


What Does This Achieve?
What does this achieve? Well, not much I suppose. My main motivation in posting it was that I thought it was bloody funny and I figured others might agree. Seriously though, I think that the Conservapedia crew are deeply unpleasant and that one of the best ways to combat such pompous blow-hards is ridicule. Schlafly does a good job of making himself look stupid. That's his look out. All I'm doing is passing on the correspondence.

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Granny Magda
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Message 9 of 22 (473322)
06-28-2008 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by randman
06-27-2008 6:58 PM


Re: growing public opinion of evos
I never expected you to be amused by it randman. It wasn't really aimed at you to be honest.
Suffice to say that given the hectoring, self-important and deeply ignorant tone of Schlafly's original letter and the bandying around of slanderous accusations of fraud on his website, I'm surprised that Lenski managed to be as polite as he was. Schlafly was asking for a dressing down and he got one.
The thing is, I don't see how diplomacy is going to help either side in this debate. I see little room for compromise. Evolution is either real or it is not. Ditto for creationism. This one is going to carry on creating acrimony and I don't see how that can be avoided.
I suspect within about 9-10 years you will see a backlash in funding and many things towards evos
Time will tell. I can't say I'm especially worried.

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