"THE EXODUS REVEALED" VIDEO

BuzsawYou said

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As I have already stated, clearly this lends a whole lot more credibility to the Bible and to the Biblical Jew/Christian God Jehovah than it does for the cause of the Muslim god Allah and the Quran.

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Since Allah IS the same God as the god of Christians and Jews, why would it be more credible for for the Bible than for the Quaran?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Yes. Islam recognizes the same God as the Jews and Christians.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

BuzYou really need to do some research on Islam.First when did Exodus supposedly happen? When did Islam begin?Second, ISLAM is not a foe of the Jew. Infact, Jews and Christians and Zoastrians are all Children of the Book. There is nothing in the Koran that is either anti-Jew or anti-Christian. Mohammud only achieved his success at Mecca and Medina because he had the direct aid and support of his Jewish Neighbors.The GOD of ISLAM is infact, the very same GOD as that of the Jews and the Christians. We are all one religious family, Jew, Christian and Muslim. That is part of what makes this whole mess right now so horrible, it is all within the same family.It is the wars between Judea and Israel all over again.

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and may GOD watch over your coming and going.

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Considering the fact that there had been thousands of years of conflict and commerce between Egypt and the Nation States of the Fertile Crescent I would be suprprised if you could not find relics of chariots and other war or commerce carriers all over the area. Finding Chariot Wheels does NOTHING to prove or disprove Exodus. All it shows is...wheels.

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BuzAnd Yes, believe it or not, axles are often attached to wheels.So let me ask you a question. Let's say that you find hundreds of chariot wheels all along the Red Sea, the Reed Sea and the Sinai Penninsular.What do you think that might mean? How would that provide ANY support for the Exodus story?

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I was a Zionist plot, as usual.

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I know that this is really a stretch, but in all the campaigns that Tut III made into Palestine, do you think that there was any chance, no matter how small, that some equipment might have broken and been left along the way?Is there any possibility that someone might someday find some of the abandoned equipment and mistake that for remnants of the equipment from the great Exodus Army?edited to addReminds me of one of my favorite Bill Mauldin cartoons."You blokes leave an awfully messy battlefield"This message has been edited by jar, 05-29-2004 11:01 AM

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Well, actually yes, the very fact of an Exodus is in question. Certainly, an Exodus of anything like the magnitude described in the Bible is very, very unlikely.While it might be reasonable for a group of people, perhaps even one numbering in the thousands of individuals, to have abandoned Egypt and gone off looking for newer lands, there doesn't seem to be any supporting evidence for anything like what is described in Exodus. There is no mention of it in the Egyptian annals, and they were very good record keepers. There is no evidence showing the area of the wilderness that was supposedly occupied had any settlements, there is little or no supporting evidence of the invasions or battles recounted.Of the various parts of the Bible seen as historical, I would say that the Exodus is one of the least supported.

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Well, if as you say, you would think that there might be a few "Big Opportunity in lightly used real estate" or "Get your land now while the market is depressed" or "Buyers Market in used homes" announcements.The Biblical account of the Exodus seems to indicate that a very large number of people were involved. It looks like something on the order of 10-20% of the population up and left. Now that is the kind of thing that might make news even in a small town newspaper. But when you add in the fact that the whole army got wiped out, not heavy casualities like Normandy but more on the order of Napolean's Retreat from Moscow, then it moves from page nine of the Times Picayune up to front page Wall Street Journal.In addition, events like Napolean's Retreat from Moscow have other effects on the society in general. There would have been succession issues, heads would have rolled, very definitely blame would have been assigned and certainly made public. Other nations in the area would have noticed what had happened and if possible, taken advantage of an opportunity to whup up on a nation that just lost its whole army and staff.But there is no evidence that any of that happened.

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Yet another unfounded assertion within a litany of absurdities.If you have proof of that, please present it in the appropriate forum.Sorry, but so far you have offered absolutely no evidence that the "Exodus Revealed" video or the equally silly "Exodus Case" are anything more than yet another way to take money from the gullible and needy. They do not even have the credibility of selling indulgences.Sad, very sad.

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And neither of you is much bothered that Tut III, who was pretty well documented, campaigned annually for nearly twenty years all up and down the Eastern Med as far North as Syria and that whole region was under Egyptian domination for the whole time?Or that Amenhotep II, the next in line also campaigned through that whole area as far north as Syria?

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But what I hope they will be able to show is something other than the pure conjecture that we have seen so far.To educate me, they are going to have to find some external corroborating items, some stele, inscriptions and documentation, something other than their fertile imagination. They will have to explain why there are two tombs and the later tomb was also used to hide additional mummies. They will have to explain the two year period where it seems he co-ruled with his father, Tutmose III.I'm sure there is much I can learn but so far we have been offered absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Hopefully, that will change.I believe that it is likely that there was something like the Exodus. But it certainly was not on the scale described in the Bible. That is not surprising, people often exaggerate history to make things look better or grander than reality. That was certainly the case with Jerico. A migration of a few hundred families, maybe even a few thousand families (but that is much less likely) most likely happened. But the simple logistics of a mass Exodus of millions of people over a 40 year period while leaving absolutely no evidence and going totally unnoticed by the whole rest of the world, is frankly, very, very, very nie unbelievable.

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We've been over the mountain, the column, the wheels, the pillars and all of the rest of it. None of that constitutes evindence as it stands. Right now it is not even indicative of evidence.One. You can not connect any of them to a time period within an over 1000 year period when they could have originated. Nor can they be connected to the alleged Exodus.Nor have you answered ANY of the questions that have been posed.BuzYou got nothing.At a minimum you need to be able to show...

1. That there were Hebrews in Egypt sometime before 6 BC.
2. That there was a character called Moses.
3. That there was an Exodus at all.
4. That Egypt lost a Pharoah.
5. That there is a plausible reason that the other World Powers at the time did not react.
6. That there is some plausible reason no one even noticed.

So far you have answered none of the questions. Even once you answer those, it would still be an Exodus, most likely unoppossed, of a minor people, consisting of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people.

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But it is a very important illustration of how the Exodus Myth came into being.Here we have an example of the willing rewriting of well documented history for the sake of a myth. The character of Moses is raised from being an alleged Prince of Egypt to the Pharoah himself. Times are changed, lengths of reign changed, and corroborating evidence ignored.For me, it is a great illustration of how what was probably a very minor event at the time can be exagerated by non-critical followers from a short story into an epic.

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