Why wasnt jesus married ?

Thanks for the comments. Glad someone here apreciates me.

MTWCareful now mike or you might begin to believe your own press. We are barely able to contain your ego as it is.LOL

Ahahaharrrgh.Ego? Ego? Me?..... Cheeky baba.

And since he got really old, he was punished indeed
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Rocket took the words right out of my mouth 3 months ago. Jesus was fishing for men. He was probably gay.

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again, we're reading a different bible it would seem. jesus was from NAZARETH not a NAZARITE. at least not his entire life. the nazarite bit was intended to be temporary, not life-long.here's some bits from the vow of the nazarite:

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Num 6:3 He shall separate [himself] from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
Num 6:4 All the days of his separation shall he eat nothing that is made of the vine tree, from the kernels even to the husk.

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yet jesus makes wine from water, and also serves it at his last supper.

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Num 6:6 All the days that he separateth [himself] unto the LORD he shall come at no dead body.

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yet jesus raises lazarus from the dead.the nazarite vow also says nothing about women. traditionally, people called rabbi, and indeed any great men in the bible, are married. the fact that jesus never has a wife mentioned is truly absurd. this actually comes from a later greek concept that sex was immoral and unclean. the ancient hebrews believed that it had it's place, and was actually holy. it's very likely that jesus was in fact married, and all references to his marriage were erased or omitted because the greek-speaking audiences would have considered that as making him impure.in likeliness, jesus was maried to mary of magdala. she is the first person he appears to, and the text we have seems to indicate a special relationship of the two.This message has been edited by Arachnophilia, 07-21-2004 01:29 AM

very interesting thoughts... that wedding being his own. very nice.i shall ponder this.and yes. the greatest show of humanity is the search for another to complete you. we are male and female (if you trust the bible) because it was not good for us to be alone. thus are we made specifically for the other. we are made to serve another utterly. thus, i agree that to be wholly man he should pursue this end.

I always took it as "read" that he was gay.I thought that Peter was his main lover.

why must people be gay?
particularly if they aren't listed as being with a woman?
*shrugs* nonsense.but a futher question.... why must people be gay?
why can't they simply love whomever they choose, male or female, depending on the actual sex of the lovee and not the 'preference' of the lover?

Well nobody MUST be anything - I just always pictured him as such.

Jesus could have been Gay,Think about it, he had a moustach, he hung out with those 12 poofs - it all adds up

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The original question posed in this thread is whether Jesus was married. Except for Message 4, Message 20, and possibly Message 37, everyone else is surmising bullshit; and no one has answered "who says he wasn't?"And as far as Nazarites being celebate, what about Sampson? He was a Nazarite. As far as I can tell, the only women Nazarites were prohibited from boinking were those contaminated by the fruit of the vine.But back on the subject ... where in the Gospels is it said specifically that Jesus was not married?

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the nazarite vow also says nothing about women.

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that was a triple refutation of the original argument, that jesus, as a nazarite, wholy devoted his life to god, which would exclude women.

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originally posted by willowtree:
Jesus didn't get married because He didn't want to. He fulfilled the O.T. vow of a Nazarite : wholly dedicated to the will of God for His life.

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i proved that jesus was not a nazarite, and showed that the nazarite vows were temporary and not life-long, and that the vows said nothing about women at all. willowtree said he wasn't, and i proved his point wrong. it's not, but if he was, all mention of his mariage has been erased. in the last post, i provided a reason as to why this would be. i also pointed out why the idea of him not being married is out of line if the rest of the bible:

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traditionally, people called rabbi, and indeed any great men in the bible, are married. the fact that jesus never has a wife mentioned is truly absurd. this actually comes from a later greek concept that sex was immoral and unclean. the ancient hebrews believed that it had it's place, and was actually holy. it's very likely that jesus was in fact married, and all references to his marriage were erased or omitted because the greek-speaking audiences would have considered that as making him impure.

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then, i provided textual evidence that jesus may have been married to mary from magdala.

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in likeliness, jesus was maried to mary of magdala. she is the first person he appears to, and the text we have seems to indicate a special relationship of the two.

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granted, this is only a weak argument for his having been married, but due to the text, it's the best i could do.

Arachnophilia:I appreciate your response. I agree with your premises. But the fact remains ...Here is Message One from Michael: "Can anyone help ? Why wasnt jesus married. Surely a jewish man at this point in history would have been. Why no explanation to the contrary. Perhaps this is another example of the bible's revisionism of the role of women in society. Would the admittance of jesus's union with a woman raise the fairer sex to a point of equality with man, and lower jesus from deity to man/philosepher. Surely this is a more acceptable truth, that men collated the bible (selecting which gospels to include), and elevated mans importance in order to increase both influence and power."And after reading the entire body of responses to his questions, I personally think they go unanswered, and that those who responded simply focused on their own agenda rather than directly answering Michael's original questions:Michael's Q#1) Why was Jesus not married? Why no explanation in the Bible?In other words, where in the Gospels is the explanation for why a Jewish teacher did not follow Jewish custom, marry, and procreate as other Jewish teachers and political leaders? Was he an Essene or a member of some other branch cult that forsook marriage in favor of devoting one's life to theology? So far I've only seen mention of "Nazarites," and to my understanding, Nazarites were not prohibited from engaging in either marriage or sex outside of marriage.Most other Jewish prophets and messianic political leaders were married and sired children didn't they? Are there other examples of celebate Jewish rabbis, political leaders, etc.?So the first question goes unanswered ... no one has revealed a solid, Judaic theologic reason why Jesus was not married, and no one has cited a passage in the Gospels, or any historic document contemporary with Jesus, to confirm that indeed he was not married.Michael's Q#2) Is this another example of the Bible's revisionist stance on women?I'm assuming that by "the Bible" Michael is mainly referring to the New Testament, and that if we look especially to those parts of the New Testament written or edited by Paul of Tarsus, we can clearly see indeed there is an anti-feminist tone.Did Paul ever mention whether he himself was married? If Paul wasn't married, why not? He was a Pharissaical Jew of marrying age long before he experienced his epiphany on the road to Damascus.Paul's marital status might even be the more important question really, considering the degree to which Christianity is based upon Paulism rather than the traditional Judaism from which the teachings of Jesus, James, and the original apostles springs.Does Jesus's supposed celebacy originate in Paul's anti-feminist philosophy regarding women's role in the Church? That may be a question directly related to Michael's original message. And I did not see any response in regard to Michael's second question about "revisionism" of the feminist role in Jewish society.Michael's Q#3a) Wouldn't Jesus's union with a woman raise women to a position of equality with men? Hmmmm. Very Coptic of you, Michael, and I don't see any response to your question among the 44 posted "replies."Michael's Q#3b) And wouldn't Jesus's marriage to a woman lower his own status from "God" to humble "Man?" Hmmmm. Very Humanistic of you Michael, and again I don't see much in the way of response to that question either.By the way, Michael, have you given up on responses that directly address your questions? I will scan the 44 replies again, but I didn't see any further participation by you the first time through. I'll use that "Michael's Messages" feature to see if I missed them. Oh, well, if not, I fully understand ... what with all this theological posturing to avoid a direct answer.Peace. Abshalom.EDIT: Okay, on second read-thru, I see that Michael did reply to Willowtree's errant ideas about Nazarite's vows regarding celebacy, etc., and women's role in Jewish and early Christian societies. However, Michael's messages at #5 and #6 surely can't be responsible for the entire thread swerving away from the original questions ...This message has been edited by Abshalom, 09-14-2004 10:16 AM