The Book of Revelation, Hallucination, and Heresy

Over the years I've heard rumors that John of Patmos wrote the Book of Revelation while in a hallucination induced by the fungus ergot. While looking around for any historical support for this claim, I tripped across a website that claims that Revelation is heresy, since the Jesus of Revelation contradicts the Jesus portrayed in the rest of the New Testament. An excerpt: The site goes on to list point-by-point some of these contradictions, (unfortunately with some annoying font choices). An example: Since I am not versed in the New Testament, I'd like to ask both the believers and the historians, and those that are both:Are the contradictions listed on the site valid? If so, how are the contradictions reconciled to provide a uniform picture of Jesus?What is the Book of Revelation? is it the Word of God? Hallucination? Heresy?

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Assuming we accept that Jesus and God are one and the same, the bible is full of precedent for such an act. Hell, massacaring out whole nations didn't exactly cause God to blink twice.

I agree, and this has always been a personal issue I've had with describing the God of the Old Testament as "loving".It seems like many Christians distance themselves from the OT, and stick with NT teachings - I think it is within this context of taking the NT alone that Revelation contains contradictions.

Can you take the NT on it's own? As a literal document, I mean (once you've decided it isn't literal contradictions are irrelevant). Jesus is wondering around quoting the old, and fulfilling prophecies that demonstrate him to be the messiah as well as claiming (obtusely) to be god.

I don't believe that you can take either the OT or NT as literal. And from a religious point of view, it simply does not matter if anything in the Bible is true or really happened.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

the book of revelation as written in code. This code required the passage of time and events to break, to understand its meaning. It would be very much so in the interest of the anti-Christ, to first of all understand its context immediately when it was written, and to keep it out of scripture for reasons of his exposure.
It is called the revelation of Jesus as given to John on Patmos where he was in exile.
Revelation works hand in hand with the book of Daniel.
See 'Daniel and the Revelation' by Uriah Smith. I believe the whole book my be read on line.
Difficult to unlock until someone gives you the key. Try the book.

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"In that day I will also make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, the birds of the sky and the creeping things of the ground. And I will abolish the bow, the sword and war from the land, and will make them lie down in safety. I will betroth you to Me forever; yes, I will betroth you to Me in righteousness and in justice, in lovingkindness and in compassion, and I will betroth you to Me in faithfulness. Then you will know the LORD."-the prophet Hosea (8th century B.C.) in Hosea 2:18-20

Why should it be written in code? So it is not predictive but rather "I told you so?" Why? Why?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

In Revelation Jesus kills all of the children born of adultery - how exactly do you read this 'code'? how does the 'context' change the reading of the 'child-killer' verses?To me, it seems a disgusting distortion of Christ to be used by fire and brimstone fear-mongerers...

Will you find the verse(s) for me?
Thank you.

for extermination. Why? Do you know?
All the Canaanite nations. Why?

When something is written in code, someone is not meant to understand, an enemy, for instance. The anti-Christ is the enemy of scripture.Don't understand 'I told you so'.Why do you think the anti-Christ would be interested in not getting his identity revealed?Why do you think the anti-Christ would not be interested in being exposed for all eyes to see him and identify him? He is very real, it is the number of a man (666), it is a man.

so why publish it at that time? And obviously the code worked. No one has a clue who that might be. Actually, everybody has a clue who that might be but as the usual suspects die off the people simply make up some other answer.So back to the questions. Can you try again?If it is in some code to keep the meaning hidden, why did GOD even bother with it. Why not wait until an appropriate time and send a telegram?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Sorry, I assumed you had read the opening post.
Rev Chap 2, specifically verses 22-23.

As usual I have trouble understanding what you are getting at Pecos.Would you explain yourself better? If you already know the answers to the "why" questions, why not give those answers right away? If they are your own interpretations, preface them as such...Why? Do you know?(By the way if you are trying to justify genocide by God, it probably won't work for me, since I find genocide inexcusable and perhaps the most immoral thing I can think of...)