Pick and Choose Fundamentalism

A distant relative ate a fruit off a tree, so of course a 1 year old child born over 3 thousand years later deserves to die.
If God let them off with that what would be next, staying up late?

This is a very common piece of propaganda spread by people who are extremely lax in their research. I did a small post on this very subject here that explains why this claim isn't all it seems.You might find post 15 on that thread useful too: Therefore our current designation of Hittite should be understood to represent an artificial categorisation of the peoples who lived under the political banner of Hattusa. (Ronald L. Gorny Environment, Archaeology, and History in Hittite Anatolia. Biblical Archaeologist, Volume 52, 1989, page 82)So, yet again, this is another example of Fundy circular reasoning. Evidence for a people is found, the get named (incorrectly) as being the biblical Hittites, evidence is found that proves they were not 'Hittites' but the name was kept for convenience as everyone had been referring to them as Hittites, then voila, another 'amazing fact' to support the Bible.This 'Hittite' claim is still being circulated as well, it is beyond me why people circulate garbage to try and support their beliefs.Edited by Brian, : spelling

We all ate that fruit Coragyps.*pedant alert* Bible doesn't say it was an apple.

Any external evidence to support this?BTW, who says that child sacrifice is wrong? You are judging ancient cultures by modern day western ideals. There are cultures that did practice child sacrifice, but that was their tradition, their history, who are you to say what is right and wrong?Anyway, how can ritual sacrifice even begin to compare to Joshua 6:21? They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in itmen and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys. I suppose it is okay when it is done under Yahweh's request?

So, so you take any part of Genesis literally?

So that's the only bit of Genesis you take literally?You also think it is more logical that something can come from nothing rather than matter being eternal?You do also know that it is illogical to rely on a factor that you have no idea whether that entity exists or not?

A bit ironic isn't it when we consider that God is followed exclusively by robotic morons? There, sorted it for you.

I don't recall grouping you in there. Nice persecution complex you got there, maybe you are a Christian. I corrected your error, unless of course you know the names of some atheists that have edited the Bible?The only ones I am aware of that alter the biblical texts and the meanigs are Christians, that's one reason why there are upteen thousands of different Christian denominations.

People have been saying that for close on 2000 years! Why are you in such a hurry to get to Hell?

They certainly are, this religion of theirs has been an abomination on mankind. Nothing else has plagued humanity as much as the follwers of this fairytale. Well, I don't think it is really fair to taint the human race by including Christians, but at a biological level I suppose they are. I think people only seek forgiveness if they have done something wrong, so we cannot put all humans into this category. Christians, I suppose, really do need forgiveness for misleading so many people, and ruining so many lives.and like all humans, are in need of forgiveness.
It's nice to have.

Don't lose any sleep over it mate, it's just a wee fairytale.If it wasn't for Augustine plagiarising Plotinus' neoplatonism, I don't know what the clergy would have threatened the uneducated with in their attempts to popularise the cult of Christianity. I am sure they would have found something though, liars without a conscience always do.

In context, as in Christianity's interaction with mankind, it is pretty much one of revulsion at Christianity's actions. Nope, all Christians. Any Christian who promotes this fantasy as a reality, whether it be polluting their childrens' minds with this claptrap, or standing on a street corner preaching to all and sundry to change their ways or suffer for all eternity, they are all contributing towards maintaining this ludicrous belief.I could see the point if there was at least something in Christianity that wasn't stupid but I really don't see it. The entire theology of it is flawed right from the erroneous 'Fall' of man, right down to the failed 'messiah' Jesus whose followers basically lied and ripped the OT to pieces to try and make it fit Jesus when he clearly was no messiah. Bewilderment would be more accurate. It obviously depends on the individual, but I'd say any decent person who has wronged someone, whether intentionally or not, would apologise and/or try to make up fpr what they have done.To ask someone to apologise for something an ancient ancestor did wrong is just silly. You have misunderstood.I didn't say that there is a human who has never done anything wrong, although it would be difficult to imagine what a newborn baby would need to ask forgiveness for.What I meant is that there are people who, at this moment in time, have nothing to ask anyone's forgiveness for.Take myself as an example, I genuinely has no reason to ask for anyone's forgiveness. That isn't to say that I haven't had to ask for forgiveness in the past, but at this moment in time I'm sorry to inform you that I don't. I am also pretty sure there's million and millions of people in this category too.

By whom then?

It’s having these answers that has led to the bewilderment. I don’t recall saying I had problem. How can I blame God when I don’t believe in God? I blame humans too, because humans created God. Whereabouts? Maybe in your vicinity but not here. No, there’s no special dispensation for children, Yahweh doesn’t discriminate when it comes to murder. In fact, in Exodus he even goes out of His way to manipulate events with the sole purpose of murdering innocent Egyptian children. Then, of course we have the ultimate in barbarism, the Flood that wiped out everything on Earth except for the people and animals in that wee boat. Well, who is it that I have to ask forgiveness if? I think I should know. So, you claim that I am wrong and then go on to say you don’t know! Well I am the judge of what I believe to be right or wrong, and I know for a fact that the majority of the Bible has been shown to be false, I also know that Jesus was no messiah.

Righteous warfare that demands that the victor slaughters defenceless children once the battle is over? I don’t see anything righteous there. Well, I see three problems here. Firstly, you haven’t provided any evidence to back up your claim, no surprise there of course. Secondly, how can a tiny baby practise ‘vile acts such as human sacrifice’?, Finally, human sacrifice appears not to be a ‘criminal’ act when Yahweh orders it, and there’s many a mention in the Bible of Yahweh being happy with human sacrifices (Ex. 13:2, 22:29 and Lev 17:1-14 to mention a few of these). You have yet to prove that there was a righteous judgement, all you have provided so far is your famous unsupported assertions. And whose government insists that we should put babies to death because their parents are doing something wrong?Why would God order the slaughter of a 2 month old baby at Jericho because some priests had been practising child sacrifice? It’s not as if God is saving the baby is it? Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t a government actually carry out the death penalty on those who commit the crime?It is a poor comparison anyway, we vote governments into power, who voted evil Yahweh into power?Honestly, your desperation to defend the evil Yahweh has completely short-circuited your thinking process, you think it is okay to kill a baby because a group of adults have been sacrificing children.Can you seriously not see the error in your thinking here? Why are babies guilty of a ‘crime’ that adults are performing?Edited by Brian, : No reason given.