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Author Topic:   Genesis 1 vs. Genesis 2
BobAliceEve
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Message 97 of 149 (148877)
10-10-2004 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 96 by Rrhain
10-09-2004 5:58 PM


No contradiction
Hi all,
It is my studied but humble opinion that there is no contradiction.
It seems to me that Genesis 1 is speaking of the design phase of a project and Genesis 2 is speaking of the implementation phase of the same project. If so, then this is one consistent project.
In every engineering activity the developers form a plan or design then execute it. God is telling us that this is His way, also. I work in software engineering where we do top-down design and bottom-up programming - which completely explains the clear "chronoligical reversal" seen in these two chapters.
Are other engineering disciplines top-down design. Bridges, buildings, airplanes, ...
Thanks for listening,
BAE

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BobAliceEve
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Message 101 of 149 (148968)
10-10-2004 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by arachnophilia
10-10-2004 6:02 PM


Re: No contradiction
Hi Arachnophilla,
Thanks for responding.
Would you agree that the first five verses of chapter two refer to the verses in chapter one?
Assuming that you will say "yes" (risking being wrong but trying to conserve posts) the follow-on question is: would you agree that verse five says "...every plant of the field before it was in the earth..."
So, the first 36 verses of Genesis are about plants before they were "in the earth". We agree that they were created in chapter one so they must have been "created" somewhere else since they were not yet created "in the earth"? And, logically, if there were no plants then there were probably no animals yet in the earth? So they also were created somewhere else before they were created "in the earth"?
Knowing God as a powerful being, I would argue that it is reasonable that God's design process would be like an engineer's making a mock-up but it would be different in that God simply created the real thing somewhere else then recreated it "in the earth".
I look forward to your response,
BAE

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BobAliceEve
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Message 140 of 149 (149067)
10-11-2004 6:36 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Rrhain
10-11-2004 1:08 AM


Re: No contradiction
rrhain responds appropriately with
quote:
True, but if one set of plans says "Wiring on Tuesday, Ducts on Wednesday," and another set of plans says, "Ducts on Tuesday, Wiring on Wednesday," then which one is the actual set of plans? They obviously contradict each other.
I help build airplanes. On an imaginary project we design the body in 1Q 2003 (the first "day" of design), We design the wings in 2Q 2003 (the second "day" of design). We design the engines 3Q 2003 (the third "day" of the design). We design the interior 4Q 2003 (the fourth "day" of design).
When the design was complete we build the plane. We build and test the engines on the first manufacturing "day". We build the wings on the second manufacturing "day". We build the body on the third manufacturing "day". We build the interior on the fourth manufacturing "day".
This is an example of what I mean. The design days are in a different order than the manufacturing days. Possibly this will clarify my point.
As always, thank you all for your reading,
BAE

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