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Author Topic:   Contradictions: Hint that Genesis 1 and 2 are Allegorical
Coyote
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Message 67 of 100 (767593)
08-30-2015 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by Straightshot
08-30-2015 7:35 PM


Re: Genesis 6-day account is allegorical, no conflict evolution
His initial creation of the earth and universe are all of extreme age, but the reconditioned earth and the presence of humans is of about 6000 years old according to the genealogical record of humanity recorded in the Bible. ...

What is revealed to the human is directly related to the introduction of mankind on the earth about 6000 years ago

There are many lines of evidence that show your ca. 6,000 year estimate is wrong for humans.

Depending on where you draw the human boundary, that date is off by either a couple of hundred thousand years (archaic Homo sapiens), or about 2.8 million years (Homo erectus).


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Coyote
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Message 69 of 100 (767600)
08-30-2015 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Straightshot
08-30-2015 7:50 PM


Re: Genesis 6-day account is allegorical, no conflict evolution
Well that is what you say Coyote, but the Lord reveals the truth of the matter

The Genesis account of creation is absolutely true

The Genesis account of creation has been disproved in any number of ways.

Your belief makes no difference, as the facts are unchanged by your belief.

(Old tribal myths are not the most reliable form of evidence, and that's what you're promoting.)


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Coyote
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Message 74 of 100 (767621)
08-31-2015 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Straightshot
08-31-2015 7:59 AM


Re: Genesis 6-day account is allegorical, no conflict evolution
Coyote writes:

The Genesis account of creation has been disproved in any number of ways.

Your belief makes no difference, as the facts are unchanged by your belief.

Straightshot writes:

You have the wrong facts Coyote

Inconvenient facts, for you, perhaps, but not wrong.

Scientific facts are established by observation, testing, and verification.

Religious "facts" are established by dogma, scripture and the like. Testing is the last thing believers want.

But, if you think some scientific facts are wrong this is a good place to discuss the issue. But please, don't just reply with a few dozen bible quotes as if that were evidence.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Coyote
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Message 76 of 100 (767630)
08-31-2015 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by Straightshot
08-31-2015 9:05 AM


Re: Genesis 6-day account is allegorical, no conflict evolution
I have discovered truth communicated by the one and only God of creation .... no doubt

And because of that you can't recognize any other evidence.

"Belief gets in the way of learning."


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Coyote
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Message 97 of 100 (811499)
06-08-2017 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Davidjay
06-08-2017 7:00 PM


Re: No contradictions
TRUE Dredge..... Genesis is exact and reads as history because it is history, and that contradicts the atheists and evolutionists and makes them mad at the worldwide flood and its proofs and exactness. So they fight it tooth and nail, and demand that their creationist opposition stops. So they attempt to shut them up, one way or another.

SEE and study the TRUE HISTORY OF THE FLOOD thread..... its my thread suggestion and my proofs, but it just straight from Genesis and anyone can prove it for themselves.....

There are no contradictions, in the geological amazing record. No missing links or misssing gaps, its all chronological and exact

The flood at your "exact" date has been disproved. I posted the evidence a dozen times, but so far you have refused to acknowledge those posts or respond in any meaningful way.

You have no evidence, you lose.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Coyote
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Message 99 of 100 (811502)
06-08-2017 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Davidjay
06-08-2017 8:05 PM


Re: No contradictions
See TRUE HISTORY OF THE WORLDWIDE FLOOD... I have proven it and its exactness many times, if you dont like it so be it. Your problem. The dating has been solved and is EXACT. Deal with it.

Your date may be "exact" but there was no flood at that "exact" time.

You read old tribal myths, I read the real-world evidence from the soils--and both my own research and that of archaeologists and geologists around the world say there was no such flood. Deal with it.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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