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ringo
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Message 76 of 306 (581998)
09-18-2010 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 75 by ICANT
09-18-2010 2:56 PM


Re: Eretz and Adamah
ICANT writes:

I am sorry I could not find your dictionary online.

Neither could I find one that gave the primary meaning of earth that agrees with your definition.


What has "primary meaning" got to do with it? Your own source, which you quote-mined, also defines "earth" as:
quote:
land
country, territory
district, region
tribal territory
piece of ground
land of Canaan, Israel
If you want to insist on one definition over all of the others, you have to provide a compelling reason.

Edited by ringo, : Removed blank line.


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Message 95 of 306 (582956)
09-24-2010 1:24 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by New Cat's Eye
09-23-2010 11:34 PM


Re: Bigger Picture
Catholic Scientist writes:

But then the story being about God wiping out life except for the dude that builds a big boat with animals to repopulate the world wouldn't make any sense at all. If it was only a part of the world then that whole thing would have been pointless.


If the plan was to rid the world of sin, then the plan did fail, didn't it? We still have sin in the world today, don't we? Sin must have been perpetuated by somebody on the boat or somebody outside the flood area.


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ringo
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Message 97 of 306 (582966)
09-24-2010 2:05 AM
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09-24-2010 1:39 AM


Re: Bigger Picture
Catholic Scientist writes:

Is there anything in the myth that says that the decendants of Noah couldn't have sinned afterwards?


No, but what was the point of murdering most of the people in the world if it was the same after as it was before?


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Message 99 of 306 (582974)
09-24-2010 2:31 AM
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09-24-2010 2:18 AM


Re: Bigger Picture
Catholic Scientist writes:

Are you saying that the existence of sin today the world becomming the same means that The Flud must have been understood to be a portion of the world instead of the whole thing?


It would make more sense, wouldn't it? As a permanent fix, it didn't work. As a temporary/local fix, maybe it did.

But the extent of the flood isn't particularly relevant anyway. The story doesn't focus on the ones who died. It focuses on the ones who lived. It makes the point that if you obey God, He takes care of you. The flood could have been a tempest in a teapot and it wouldn't spoil that lesson.


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Message 122 of 306 (584847)
10-04-2010 12:47 PM
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10-04-2010 11:20 AM


Re: Local Story
Catholic Scientist writes:

I think the point of the story implies a worldwide flood.


What exactly do you think the point of the story is?


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Message 127 of 306 (584891)
10-04-2010 2:37 PM
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10-04-2010 2:11 PM


Re: Known World
ICANT writes:

The early map shows that those people knew they were surrounded by salt water.


The early Tahitians knew they were surrounded by salt water but they didn't think Tahiti was all the land there was.

Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote.


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