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Author Topic:   Jesus's Prophecy Of His Gospel
Amlodhi
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Message 44 of 67 (62852)
10-25-2003 10:28 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Quiz
10-25-2003 6:33 PM


Hi Quiz,
quote:
Originally posted by Quiz
No faith no way you will ever really know he is there, you can debate all day long with no faith, you wont find anything.
quote:
Originally posted by buzsaw
This is false and contrary to scripture.
Glad we can agree on something, buzsaw.
quote:
Originally posted by Quiz
. . . at one time I found error in the bible but soon I found things by faith which help correct my understanding which removed the error. I would not say that any scholler has any good knowledge of the bible based of just that fact (because some schollers are not believers causing them to bring out the false understanding)...
Like it or not, you have but one credible means of demonstrating that your understanding of any given biblical passage is correct. For you, along with everyone else, that credible means is the critical examination of biblical linguistics, culture and history.
You may, if you wish, claim that you were led to the correct understanding by faith. However, if you wish to make a credible demonstration to others that your understanding is correct, faith cannot be used as supporting argument.
Amlodhi

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Amlodhi
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Message 57 of 67 (62900)
10-26-2003 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
10-23-2003 1:12 AM


Hello buzsaw,
quote:
Originally posted by buzsaw
So folks now, here we are with the prophecy pretty much fulfilled. . .
Your original post proclaimed amazing and incontrovertible prophecies "fulfilled to a 'T'".
Yet, even you, in your first post, retreated to the phrase "practical purposes" regarding the "times of the Gentiles".
It seems reasonably clear then that the "times of the Gentiles" were not fulfilled in 1967 and thus, the six-day war was not the fulfillment of Luke 21:24 as you originally proclaimed.
Therefore, the most generous concession that can be made regarding this "prophecy" is that it remains to be seen whether or not it will be fulfilled.
As to the "prophecy" that the gospel will be preached to the entire inhabited earth, it has already been pointed out that this is a self-dependent statement analogous to the anthropic principle (i.e., the prophecy remains extant if/and only if the religion survives).
As to fulfillment of this prophecy, your own equivocation (i.e. "pretty much fulfilled") admits that this has not happened. Therefore, it not only remains to be seen whether or not this "prophecy" will be fulfilled, but more importantly, it also remains to be seen whether or not any of the attendant consequences occur if/and when the gospel ever is "preached to all the world".
So, in contrast to your original proclamation of incontrovertible and amazing prophecies fulfilled to a "T", what we have actually been presented with so far are two rather ambiguous statements, neither of which can be demonstrated to have been "fulfilled".
If then, there is such a plethora of astounding prophecy fulfillment on which you base your faith, why are you experiencing such difficulty in presenting one?
Namaste'
Amlodhi

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