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jar
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Message 46 of 117 (114542)
06-11-2004 7:58 PM
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06-11-2004 7:44 PM


WT

If Time Travel existed would you be able to test and verify its existence.


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Message 47 of 117 (114546)
06-11-2004 8:26 PM
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06-11-2004 6:08 PM


Anything and everything will be considered except God.

I'll consider God. Just bring me some evidence.

Well? I'm waiting...


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Message 48 of 117 (114677)
06-12-2004 2:15 PM
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06-11-2004 8:26 PM


www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=6&t=284&p=5 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=6&t=284&p=5">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=6&t=284&p=5
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jar
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Message 49 of 117 (114681)
06-12-2004 2:39 PM
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06-12-2004 2:15 PM


WT
That whole theory with the pyramids is crap and you should know it. It was refuted time and time again throughout that thread and you simply ignored every one.

There is NOTHING in that whole mass of crap that makes any sense. The pyramid is not where the authors say it is, the height they use is incorrect, the whole idea of Egyptians using a sacred inch is absurd.

That is simply embarassing and the kind of stuff that would drive even a believer to doubt. The biggest threat to a belief in GOD is nonsense stuff likelthat.


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Message 50 of 117 (114682)
06-12-2004 2:42 PM
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06-12-2004 2:39 PM


But you forget
Ah, you would say that wouldn't you, you have had your God sense removed!

Ye goode olde self-fulfilling prophecy.

Brian.


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Message 51 of 117 (114685)
06-12-2004 3:26 PM
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06-12-2004 2:39 PM


Re: WT
Absolute fundie/scientism dogma dismissal.

You refuse to look at the evidence only because it threatens something you already spoke up for.

Nothing was refuted, a few pseudo-intellectuals who know nothing about the Pyramid inundated the topic with kindergarten input.

You are scared and saying things scared people say.


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jar
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Message 52 of 117 (114688)
06-12-2004 3:47 PM
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06-12-2004 3:26 PM


Re: WT
Absolute fundie/scientism dogma dismissal.

I believe you would have a hard time convincing many folk here that I am a fundie/scientism whatever that hell that is.

You refuse to look at the evidence only because it threatens something you already spoke up for.

Wrong.

Mene, mene tekel upharsin.

Your ideas were refuted up one side and down the other.

First, the pyramid is not on the border, it is not halfway between anything, it is not in the center of anything.

There is no other reference to the Delta Quadrant. That is bullcrap post-hoc definitions added by the shyster writing some book that the gullible will pay good money for.

The Egyptians left us very good records of just how they measured things, and honest, they did not use the sacred inch.

When you do find something for which there is any evidence, I will be happy to discuss it with you and to learn from you. But at least try to find something that has some credibility.


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Message 53 of 117 (114692)
06-12-2004 3:58 PM
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Re: WT
Please come over to the topic in question and POST your refuting evidence. The evidence I posted was clearly explained and sources cited. This is how debate is conducted. The evidence of the Pyramid remains and it cannot be refuted.

Tell me Jar, describe "technology" as it existed 2000 years ago ?

Then do the same with 3000 and 4000 years ago. Just a brief outline - what do you say ?

Please take your response to the appropriate topic as we are way off topic here.


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jar
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Message 54 of 117 (114695)
06-12-2004 4:16 PM
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06-12-2004 3:58 PM


Re: WT
How bout just links.

Message 3
Message 17
Message 22
Message 29
Message 39

And I believe this is the proper thread because you are trying to get this dog to hunt here. It won't hunt anybetter here than it did there. It is nonsense and as silly as the idea that is covered in this thread.

You are trying to do the same thing that is alleged in this, transporting modern knowledge and technology back in time.

Your pyramid is as silly as the idea that some damn fool would take a KayPro or Compaq portable running windows 3.1 back to show a power point demo.


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Message 55 of 117 (114699)
06-12-2004 4:28 PM
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06-12-2004 4:16 PM


Re: WT
So are you refusing to refute or are you going to just say it as if it is even though it is not ?

Where is your technology outline ?

I will settle for ONE scrap of evidence that indicates Egyptians built the Pyramid. Surely you don't think they built the Suez canal ?


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jar
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Message 56 of 117 (114703)
06-12-2004 4:46 PM
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06-12-2004 4:28 PM


Technology outline for WT
So are you refusing to refute or are you going to just say it as if it is even though it is not ?

the Pyramid nonsense was refuted in the links provided.

As to the Egyptians building the Pyramids, of course they did. There is absolutely no doubt that they did. We have a history of the early efforts showing the progression and the encountered problems, they worked them out and went on.

As to technology, there is nothing involved in the pyramids that requires a high level of technology. It was certainly possible with stone age technology, even easier if there was bronze. The Egyptians knew about the wheel, the lever, surveying, levels, the right angle, the plumb line, everything needed to build the pyramids.

They had labor (and all of the indications are that it was not slave labor), we have found the cities and settlements where they stayed, the logistical support base, bakeries, kitchens, dining areas. We have found signs that there was medical care and even competitions for productivity.

WT, there is no mystery about the pyramids.

As to your insertion related to the Suez Canal, well... that's typical WT. As usual, totally off the wall.

edited to add.

What does the Suez Canal have to do with anything? We know that at least since 600 BCE or so efforts were made to build such a canal.

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crashfrog
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Message 57 of 117 (114725)
06-12-2004 6:41 PM
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06-12-2004 2:15 PM


I'm still waiting.

The fact that you can't tell the difference between a task that's impossible and a task that's just really, really hard is proof of nothing but your own lack of imagination.

Back on topic. Eddy, what's the deal? I've brought up objections to your scenario in two different threads, but you've never addressed them. Why would time travellers take back a computer they would have had to plunder from a museum when off-the-shelf would have been faster, lighter, and more stable?


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Message 58 of 117 (114744)
06-12-2004 9:45 PM
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06-12-2004 6:41 PM


As per my original accusation that began this exchange - your mind is closed, which isn't a problem. The problem is the open-minded facade that wraps your closed mind.

Space aliens/time travel yet a physical structure on the face of the Earth that could not be built today and you won't even appease my criticism by saying "I'll look at the evidence on my own schedule", but the aforementioned nonsense of space aliens and time travel instantly gets a "jury is still out" acceptance.


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Message 59 of 117 (114747)
06-12-2004 10:11 PM
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06-12-2004 4:46 PM


Re: Technology outline for WT
Jar:

The content of this post reveals you haven't spent 10 hours of your life reviewing the claims of the Pyramid. Science demands physical evidence that it can examine yet the Pyramid is treated like a spectre.

Every person who recognizes the Pyramid for what it is initially laughed at the claims. These same people ended up writing the irrefutable research in favor of the claims.

Lets toss any and all Biblical claims and just focus on the scientific wonders contained in the Pyramid. There are endless secular websites that present this evidence. The intelligence and technology that built the Pyramid could not of been built by any human being that existed thousands of years ago. 70 ton blocks cut with optical precision and erected into position 40 stories high defies ancient "neanderthal" intelligence and know-how. Ancient humans/Egyptians barely mastered chariot and seige machine "technology", much less genius scientific technology that came in to discovery since the Renaissance (to be generous).

I posted the Pyramid topic in full knowledge that it would be instantly dismissed by persons who never studied the evidence for 10 hours of their life. My true point was to demonstrate that this present scientific generation is not as open minded as they claim. The physical structure that sits exactly in the center of Egypt and on the border thereof proves it.

You can have the last word if you want unless you take up the debate in the "Proof of God" topic.

WT.


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Eddy Pengelly
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Message 60 of 117 (114753)
06-12-2004 11:51 PM
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06-12-2004 6:41 PM


Outstanding replies
Hi, I am on holidays with my family.
I will get back to you later next week.
Regards, Eddy
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